There is absolutely nothing wrong with using reusable ends on "rubber" lined steel braided line. Since the pressure is sub 1200psi there is no need to over-complicate a procedure by using machine-crimped ends that cannot be field installed where lengths can be made perfect every time.
I believe about every manufacturer under the sun produces quality stainless lines that can be assembled with reusable ends. They are usually rated to ~1000psi and the temperature ranges are normally between 250 and 300 depending on selection.
You can buy such a product from Aeroquip at a place like Summit. Here's a 20 foot role of sufficient hose for $95.
Combine that hose with a few of these reusables in the $10 range and you're there:
They're $18.25 in a 90* fitting.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that hose or fittings for either fuel delivery or trans cooler usage.
If you used 4 90's and all 20 feet that would be $168. Aeroquip states that hose to be comprised of "synthetic rubber", which may be what you're speaking of. Regardless, a section of it has been right at and at times actually
touching my second stage turbo for a number of years now with 70 to 100+psi of fuel pressure in it and other than burning the "protec" abrasion cover off the line, it shows no signs of fatigue. So while I can't comment on some of the other options, I know that stuff is sufficient for something as basic as flowing trans fluid to and from a cooler.
Charles,
Thank you for the photos.
I see a hose photo that’s better than a 1000 words. ---- If you can look at anything objectively....
Look closely at the photo of the hose you posted.
Notice the inner braid is on the outside of plain flexible neoprene hose that Summit or Aero Quip refers to as "synthetic rubber".
That inner layer has diamond shaped holes in it. Then notice the outer braid is a tighter mesh with smaller holes in it.
The point is a thin exterior fabric cover of stainless strands does not strengthen or extend the life of the neoprene or "synthetic rubber" hose inside it at all...It's a cover only...
LOL
The hose itself will still harden from heat, check, then crack inside the outer fabric braid covering it. When it does, it will still leak the same way it always has, except you won’t see the warning signs of hose cracks...
That IS the exact hose I mentioned earlier... :joy:
If you want to pay $5 a foot for covered neoprene hose that costs $0.40 to $0.55 cents a foot by the truck load, that's fine... Good for you. :clapping:
Running fuel thru the same type of hose and knowing the stainless fabric covering has already melted, but you’re satisfied with it…. About all I can say is, I hope you or a loved one or anyone else doesn't get hurt or your truck doesn't burn up before it's replaced. I agree to disagree on your current choice of hoses. :toast:
We have wholly different view points. Yours is a site member’s and DIY owner’s point of view. My view is a Site Sponsor’s, and an experienced Professionals who wouldn’t sell what your using, because there is an alternative that is vastly superior, isn’t a fire hazard and could be made available for the same price or less.
I wouldn't expect you or anyone else to know about it at all.
Using the standards an O.E.M. follows the “adequate” hose you are using that has started to melt just from radiant heat is below established S.A.E. safety standards on O.E.M. stock vehicles for fire hazard alone. Those were adopted back in the 1930s. A cigarette lighters flame would do that hose in. That heat wouldn’t damage a steel metal line.
If I manufacturer any lines or hoses for high performance vehicles, the quality will be well above O.E.M. I asked for interest and opinion by PM or email. I guess you missed that and felt the need to shoot it down without knowing more for some reason…...
From what I hear, you have had multiple transmission failures… Any objective comments on that, or is that a different Charles? Nothing personal or offensive intended, I am asking you objectively about that,
if you can be objective. If not, I'm not interested, ...no reply needed--
Please.
We do agree on one thing.
You would need to be concerned about field service and a complete $168.00
replacement of the hose that you prefer. Probably in less than 4-5 years.
Real stainless steel that will last a lifetime can be found in use on the kitchen table of nearly every home in the U.S. during every meal. Why shouldn’t it be used for brake, fuel, and other lines that contain flammable liquids in every U.S. vehicle made too????
Many steel brake lines have pin holed or burst from rusting through on these trucks in the rust belt states. If the finest real stainless line and hose assemblies can be made for the same price you paid or less
my view and vision is nothing less should be used to build both bone stock and modified high performance vehicles all of our lives depend on. Lifetime is the standard quality most have and use at every meal and is in every U.S. kitchen daily.
Think about that...
The hose I referred to earlier is much different than the hose you prefer. It’s not available from the common sources of off-shore products made for vehicles, which is what many of the things Summit sells are. It’s made exclusively in the U.S.A. and is a proprietary product not available to individual consumers or from retailers anywhere including Summit.
It can be exposed to the extreme heat from huge nearby open flames of fire without failing.
On a humorous note : It can withstand enough radiant heat to melt your entire truck down to liquid that would boil, and then vaporize until it was gone. :flush: LOL
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It would well exceed SAE standards for fire safety both during normal and high performance use and during severe collisions (wrecks or motor vehicle accidents). It would last a lifetime.
If there is enough interest, we could offer 25’ feet of an extremely high quality product with fittings that’s 100,000 times better than the plain "rubber" flexible covered hose you prefer
now for less than $160.00. You will find out more and why we have exclusive access to this material and several others when our welcome thread is posted.
The hose I prefer can be seen somewhere...
....in the first photo with many others of unmatched quality.
The second photo demonstrates how much radiant heat, stress, violent movement, and vibrations it can easily withstand.
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Thank you,
Racer -- out.
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