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Old 09-03-2017, 12:06 PM
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Hi guys. Have a '12 ******* with S******. Happy with it. Been towing lots this summer. One thing I'm thinking of changing is something to bring down my oil temps. Easily hit 250F on some of my climbs. It does cool down relatively quickly when I ease up on it, unlike my 6.0L in the past, so thats sweet but its slowing me down when I reach those numbers. I know the 6.7's run hotter. I just don't want to kill the motor. You guys have any advice or similiar experiences? Would an oil cooler be of any help? What would you guys do? Thx.
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Pretty common, my expert opinion is the oil cooler isn't large enough on these. My 17 with 2500 miles on it hit 218 unloaded with the OEM fill oil on the first hot day here in Michigan first day I had my ezlynk to monitor it. I was pissed being an oil guy. But since then I've seen it from a lot of people loaded towing.
One thing to keep in mind is the oxidative life of the oil is cut in half for every 10 degrees C increase in temp. So if you do it often you'd want to shorten your oil change interval.


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Pretty common, my expert opinion is the oil cooler isn't large enough on these. My 17 with 2500 miles on it hit 218 unloaded with the OEM fill oil on the first hot day here in Michigan first day I had my ezlynk to monitor it. I was pissed being an oil guy. But since then I've seen it from a lot of people loaded towing.
One thing to keep in mind is the oxidative life of the oil is cut in half for every 10 degrees C increase in temp. So if you do it often you'd want to shorten your oil change interval.


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What do you think of synthetic oil jimdawg185?
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What do you think of synthetic oil jimdawg185?


Synthetic is a term that doesn't mean a lot. Mobil sued Castrol in the late 90s over the definition and Castrol won, which means it doesn't mean anything. In general the majors Synthetics are better than their "conventional". But I have a mineral based product that whoops any "Synthetics" ass. It's long chemistry lesson that I'm very willing to explain over the phone anytime you are having trouble sleeping lol.


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Synthetic is a term that doesn't mean a lot. Mobil sued Castrol in the late 90s over the definition and Castrol won, which means it doesn't mean anything. In general the majors Synthetics are better than their "conventional". But I have a mineral based product that whoops any "Synthetics" ass. It's long chemistry lesson that I'm very willing to explain over the phone anytime you are having trouble sleeping lol.


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Well... sounds interesting. Could you enlighten me a bit?
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Well... sounds interesting. Could you enlighten me a bit?


It's a very long and technical explanation, but the majors use very mediocre base oils for their mineral base stocks, and decent oils for their Synthetics. But, the add packs are mediocre in their Synthetics. Us, and a few other high performance oil companies, use the highest quality of both. Specifically a high mag balanced Cal add pack with infiniums highest grade ZDDP. If You peek at Mobil 1 you will see lessZDDP than T6, but it's a higher quality pack. So you end up with the similar performance aspect. We use as much as allowed of the highest quality available pack. This gives the oil a large bandwidth for abuse. Mineral group 3 base oils carry add packs better than PAO Synthetics. So, our 8800 is just balanced better than any majors synthetic. Our synthetic actually uses our high quality mineral as a carrier stock in the PAO synthetic. We also have Monolec with does a variety of things to tribo parts. Helps increase natural film strength over putting a **** load of polymers into an oil to increase VI. It coats and keeps parts clean, ect etc.


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Wow, didn't think it was that complicated lol. Way over my head. Always thought there was oil, then good oil, then synthetic. Don't want to make it sound unimportant but I'm sure most of us don't understand the abbreviations and certifications of all the necessary ingredients. Maybe you should start a thread on this and educate some of us that are interested lubricants? Anybody else?
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Wow, didn't think it was that complicated lol. Way over my head. Always thought there was oil, then good oil, then synthetic. Don't want to make it sound unimportant but I'm sure most of us don't understand the abbreviations and certifications of all the necessary ingredients. Maybe you should start a thread on this and educate some of us that are interested lubricants? Anybody else?

There's a few in my section. I'm a sponsor. But I talk to all my customers on the phone and go into as much depth as they want.

It's far more complicated than you could possibly imagine my friend.


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My 15 with GH SOTF tunes will hit 240 pretty quick pulling camper on tow tune. That's without really working it, thing is it never really climbs over 242-245 when really working it up in the CO mountains. I don't worry too much about it, I run fully synthetic 5w40 Delo and most synthetics are good to 300+degrees far as I know. I agree with previous poster that oil coolers on these are not nearly large enough for people who actually work them towing...I may start looking for an upgrade.

I have a cummins 15 L and a Cat 15 L in two different big rigs and it's a different world, we never see over 220 ish on oil temp pulling 90k lbs...but those motors are made for a high load for long periods of time.


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