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Old 05-03-2017, 03:14 PM
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Does anyone know how far away "real" tuning is? It seems like all that's talked about is the OE "export" tune and the TS module, neither of which are worth the $$$ to me. I'm just wondering if there's anything on the horizon yet.
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Old 05-03-2017, 05:22 PM
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Does anyone know how far away "real" tuning is? It seems like all that's talked about is the OE "export" tune and the TS module, neither of which are worth the $$$ to me. I'm just wondering if there's anything on the horizon yet.
soon we will have ecm tuning but nothing thru the OBD port anytime soon .
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soon we will have ecm tuning but nothing thru the OBD port anytime soon .


I know this is a newb question but I am am a newb so that makes sense. What is the practical difference between tuning through the OBD port vs the ECM?


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I know this is a newb question but I am am a newb so that makes sense. What is the practical difference between tuning through the OBD port vs the ECM?


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I believe you'll have to physically remove the ECM and send it in.


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Well, that sucks... I know the CAN network in these new trucks is beyond complex, but I didn't realize flashing the ECM was virtually impossible now. Hopefully, someone will crack them sooner rather than later. I'm sure there's enough people lined up waiting for tuning that someone will be motivated to cash in on that. I suppose flashing the ECM and altering values to non-factory values are two very different things though. We'll see what happens...
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Well, that sucks... I know the CAN network in these new trucks is beyond complex, but I didn't realize flashing the ECM was virtually impossible now. Hopefully, someone will crack them sooner rather than later. I'm sure there's enough people lined up waiting for tuning that someone will be motivated to cash in on that. I suppose flashing the ECM and altering values to non-factory values are two very different things though. We'll see what happens...
it's not about the cash , it's about the crack. it's incredibly complex. we may have something ready VERY shortly , it's a lot of work , but definitely will only be ECM flash and not obd .
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it's not about the cash , it's about the crack. it's incredibly complex. we may have something ready VERY shortly , it's a lot of work , but definitely will only be ECM flash and not obd .
Do the 17's use a "firewall" kinda like the 13+ Cummins have?
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Without trying to sound ignorant, is fords code that complex that someone who is really good with cracking/programming computer software couldn't have cracked it by now?
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Without trying to sound ignorant, is fords code that complex that someone who is really good with cracking/programming computer software couldn't have cracked it by now?
yep. whole new ball game.
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Mike, in your opinion, will we ever be able to tune 17+ trucks via OBD II, or is that era over?
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