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Old 11-16-2017, 06:50 AM
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Loaded the 600 yesterday, this thing is going to eat tires. I didn't get to drive it much, but the little i did, it's nice. Anyone have an Ndash, where are you mounting it? This suction cup to the window is not going to fly.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:41 PM
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I'm not feeling so good about their trans tuning it is definitely doing some weird stuff at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle and when it goes into 5th gear it drops rpm way down.
I have videos of exactly whats going and I have spoken with others that shared their videos with me and we all have the same concerns. if anyone is interested in seeing them & help us try to figure this out.
i will say that Jeffrey Dodd has been answering my questions every time i have asked and he seems like a good dude. I know some problems people have with patriot (that i have heard) is that communications with them is bad I have not had any trouble getting them to answer my questions.

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Old 11-27-2017, 05:36 PM
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Glad I found this post! Let me read then I will add my issues
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Old 11-27-2017, 07:05 PM
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The tunes that are out for the ndash are cookie cutter tunes. I spend a whole day on a dyno changing tuners ,tunes and rear tires and mapped all the results and I can tell you the transmission tunes that are out are garbage. Tire size changes the whole dynamics of the program. In my normal tire set up 35x12.50x20 the ndash on the 600 hp tune ship shifted and hunted from 3rd to 5th gear at a 35mph roll on. The torque converter did not know what to do ,lock or unlock. Honestly I got better shift performance out of a different tuner with factory rear tires. Sorry to bust bubbles but it is facts. We need a tuner that will compensate for gearing and tire size altitude and so forth. Just my findings
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Old 11-27-2017, 07:11 PM
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Can you post all of your work in a separate thread? I’m sure many would like to see it.
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Old 11-28-2017, 05:25 AM
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Why a separate thread? This is a patriot tuning review thread
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Old 11-28-2017, 05:53 AM
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Looks like there was multiple tunes from different tuners along with a bunch of other changes. Not just patriot stuff. Might be helpful to others looking at more than patriot.
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:17 PM
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For what its worth, I have had exactly ZERO issues with trans shifting. No weird hiccups, missed shifts or anything. I've been running the 600 tune and 2 revisions since the whole time (4000-5000 miles worth). Not had a single issue that some have described. Maybe it has something to do with tire sizes or not letting the trans learn long enough before being hard on it. From what I know on the 17s, the relearn process is nothing like the 11-16s. You need to baby it for a while after tuning it. Not the old process of 1/4 throttle pass, 1/2, 3/4 and 100%. I've heard a good relearn on the 17s take 500-1000 miles of city driving after tuning due to the different strategies and TCM. If you have a problem with shifting, might want to try to reload the tune and baby it for a long time. See if it helps.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:30 AM
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I have 35x12.5 22s on my truck. It shifts fine. I haven't been dogging the sh!t out of it, but when I do stomp it on occasions, it's strong, shifts without flaw.

I do need someone to tell me how to monitor EGTs though. I have the NL block off plates, put the sensor from the EGR pipe in it, but can't figure out on the Ndash which 1 it is.
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I have 35x12.5 22s on my truck. It shifts fine. I haven't been dogging the sh!t out of it, but when I do stomp it on occasions, it's strong, shifts without flaw.

I do need someone to tell me how to monitor EGTs though. I have the NL block off plates, put the sensor from the EGR pipe in it, but can't figure out on the Ndash which 1 it is.
I read that the 17s adaptive shifting also changes shift points which can mess up the shifting if the tires size is off. Not sure if they changed it for 17s but on 15-16 you can read pre turbo egts using the factory sensor on the nDash
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