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Old 06-05-2017, 12:40 PM
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the cast parts are heavy but also weldable if not wanting to drill the frame
updated bracket may "look" better but welding mild steel to the frame is a lot stronger IMO
seems like a lot of effort to come up with a cast design?
i guess the bracket assembly was tedious?

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updated bracket may "look" better but welding mild steel to the frame is a lot stronger IMO
seems like a lot of effort to come up with a cast design?
i guess the bracket assembly was tedious?

who knows man.. maybe it was a production call... might produce more that way instead of welding them together... also, it says its a weldable cast alloy so it must not be a true pig iron cast steel..
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updated bracket may "look" better but welding mild steel to the frame is a lot stronger IMO
seems like a lot of effort to come up with a cast design?
i guess the bracket assembly was tedious?


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no idea why that wuoted twice

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Old 06-05-2017, 03:59 PM
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I am sure your correct
that must be it it is low alloy cast I have not welded that to mild
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looks good

their directions show a mild steel frame bracket not cast
I wonder why the changed?

pdf http://www.oneupoffroad.com/images/O...action_Bar.pdf
I had the same question when I did mine. IIRC, Dave told me it was more cost and time effective to have the pieces cast than to bend and assemble the brackets. Batch casting was a better option for them, and it was stronger at the bushing than the mild steel. Their warranty plan is "if you break it, we'll build you something stronger"
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I had the same question when I did mine. IIRC, Dave told me it was more cost and time effective to have the pieces cast than to bend and assemble the brackets. Batch casting was a better option for them, and it was stronger at the bushing than the mild steel. Their warranty plan is "if you break it, we'll build you something stronger"
i like that warranty plan

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Old 06-05-2017, 07:37 PM
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thanks for the inside info !
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well, im sure the cast parts are twice as heavy so im sure that makes it a lil stronger too...

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well, im sure the cast parts are twice as heavy so im sure that makes it a lil stronger too...

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The 101041 & 101044 cast axle bar mounts packaged are only 1lb heavier than the predecessor welded 101041 & 101042(superceded), but are definitely stronger.

The 101020 Beside Frame Pivot Mounts came out about 2 lbs heavier total cast boxed - They are much stronger, and quicker to produce in high quantity for us, so we are much happier. This allows our welders to focus on building more bars, ala's, and traction blocks because we never run out of pivot mounts (we do batches of 500 at a time)

Also Jake, Dave asked me to respond to you about the instructions as well since he doesn't really post on forums

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Per Dave -
We are sorry about the torque spec in the instructions.
The 3/8-24 Bolts should be torqued to 33 Ft Lbs when running thru the frame with nut on them instead of the 18 ftlbs.
We have fixed this typo, thanks for helping us with the problem.
If you used Loctite remember to warm up the bolt to release the lock tight to get a true torque.
We update the instructions every time we print them and try to incorporate feedback to make the install more clear.
We have fixed this typo, thanks for helping us with the problem.
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The 101041 & 101044 cast axle bar mounts packaged are only 1lb heavier than the predecessor welded 101041 & 101042(superceded), but are definitely stronger.

The 101020 Beside Frame Pivot Mounts came out about 2 lbs heavier total cast boxed - They are much stronger, and quicker to produce in high quantity for us, so we are much happier. This allows our welders to focus on building more bars, ala's, and traction blocks because we never run out of pivot mounts (we do batches of 500 at a time)

Also Jake, Dave asked me to respond to you about the instructions as well since he doesn't really post on forums

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Per Dave -
We are sorry about the torque spec in the instructions.
The 3/8-24 Bolts should be torqued to 33 Ft Lbs when running thru the frame with nut on them instead of the 18 ftlbs.
We have fixed this typo, thanks for helping us with the problem.
If you used Loctite remember to warm up the bolt to release the lock tight to get a true torque.
We update the instructions every time we print them and try to incorporate feedback to make the install more clear.
We have fixed this typo, thanks for helping us with the problem.
-Dave Hoppert, One Up Offroad
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right on!.. now that makes way more sense!!

should the nuts be taken off and more red lock tight be used if already set up and re-torqued to the 33ftlbs? i would assume so im case it got to hot and burnt it out..

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