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Old 12-30-2017, 10:53 AM
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What was your setup when using stocker with 66mm& 1.0 exhaust? I'm running stock sticks with no programmer or chip. But I will be when decide what to do on rebuilding my stocker. I plan on a t4 setup when injectors go. And who knows what size housing the banks quick turbo kit is?
Stock injectors, 4 inch exhaust, a few different 70-120 chips. Turbo wheels were stock with the ported ATS housing and banks 1.0 turbine housing. The ball bearing 38R turbo came out after I had these parts which is what I eventually switched to.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:04 PM
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That is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. I've decided to go ahead with the basic rebuild kit and inspect everything,replace what needs it and go with a wick wheel2 wheel. However I have found a Garrett 38r brand new for 1250$. And it is made by Garrett. Only thing is I'd like to have the smaller exhaust housing. I need to find out if the factory .84 will fit. I know they offer them but then you're getting up over what I need to spend.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:10 PM
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Stock injectors, 4 inch exhaust, a few different 70-120 chips. Turbo wheels were stock with the ported ATS housing and banks 1.0 turbine housing. The ball bearing 38R turbo came out after I had these parts which is what I eventually switched to.
That's good to know. I'd really like to hear from someone who has the banks quick turbo housing upgrade. Nowhere I can find the the size of it. Before I go to spending a lot though I'll go with the 38r and sell it when I get injectors and bw sxe366. I might even get most of my $ back. I'm sure I won't with the modded stocker. Thanks guys for the info.
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:31 AM
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That's good to know. I'd really like to hear from someone who has the banks quick turbo housing upgrade. Nowhere I can find the the size of it. Before I go to spending a lot though I'll go with the 38r and sell it when I get injectors and bw sxe366. I might even get most of my $ back. I'm sure I won't with the modded stocker. Thanks guys for the info.
Banks quick turbo is 1.0 which what I had. The 38R made slighly more power but was TONS louder which got old very quick especially for my wife. Those 1.0 turbine housings are expensive now and really not worth it unless you find a used one. I had about $700-$750.00 in both the exhaust and ported compressor housing, you are better off buying a 38R now if you need to buy new.
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:33 AM
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That is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. I've decided to go ahead with the basic rebuild kit and inspect everything,replace what needs it and go with a wick wheel2 wheel. However I have found a Garrett 38r brand new for 1250$. And it is made by Garrett. Only thing is I'd like to have the smaller exhaust housing. I need to find out if the factory .84 will fit. I know they offer them but then you're getting up over what I need to spend.
The 1.0 spools plenty quick on the 38R, no need for the .84 in my opinion.
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:49 AM
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So what about using a Van turbine wheel in a gtp38? That was kind of my original question. Would there be any gain going to the larger turbine wheel that came in the TP38 and E-series.

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Inducer: 76.50 MM
Exducer: 67.78 MM
Tip Height: 11.90 MM
Journal: 10.16 MM
Stem: 6.35 MM
Blades: 10

Van/TP38
Inducer: 76.50 MM
Exducer: 69.80 MM
Tip Height: 13.38 MM
Journal: 10.16 MM
Stem: 6.35 MM
Blades: 10


2.02mm bigger Exducer than the GTP38. The TP38 turbine is also bigger than the 38r turbine wheel.
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Old 12-31-2017, 03:40 PM
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I like the KC rebuild kit. 360 journal and complete rebuild. I'll keep my housing stock and go with a billet wheel. Unless the the turbine wheel ( or the rear wheel that pulls exhaust) needs replacing I'll just be around 350$ in a new turbo that should be good enough till injectors. Then I'll go t4. I'm not taking chances at this point on being laggy. Bottom end is the only gripe I have with my truck and a triple disc billet tc would do the trick. Thanks for the advice.
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:03 PM
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I honestly don’t know why you guys are even considering modding a stock turbo. I have yet to hear of anyone not being amazed at the performance increase when switching from stock, an, or 38R turbos to an S364.5. 20 year old tech has an awfully hard time keeping up with the new stuff and by the time you fix leaky up pipes, install a new housing and a WW2 you are almost into T4 mount/turbo territory.
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I paid 200 for upipes 80 for rebuild kit and 200 for a wheel to get rid of surge. 480 vs 1500 for GTP 38r or 2600 for t4 and 366? I'm not modding for for big injectors and 500hp just need it working like it used to. All that will come later as needed.
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:18 PM
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The time has come to make a decision on this. My wife's Excursion is showing signs of a bad turbo. The compressor wheel is making some noise on shut down and it has some radial play. I am well aware of the T4 setups and I am an accomplished fabricator but it is not worth the work.

Have made the decision to go with a Van turbo. Mainly because of the larger turbine wheel. The current setup is stock with an ATS housing. Plan is to install the Van turbo, send out the .84 housing to be machined and and reinstall. Should keep the spool fast and open up a little more top end.
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