Help with transmission problem

shmoozer · Jul 4, 2017

Zmann said:
don't freak on the Fluid you used it has proven itself as a decent SP/LV replacement

I would focus on the solenoids though
here is the 5r110 ATSG PDF manual link https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...0W.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFfb2_UaEkITyMXRo9sO-Fn28Wwug

That could just be me being OCD. I've just always been told to use LV/SP.

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Ace00 · Jul 5, 2017

Zmann said:
don't freak on the Fluid you used it has proven itself as a decent SP/LV replacement

I would focus on the solenoids though
here is the 5r110 ATSG PDF manual link https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...0W.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFfb2_UaEkITyMXRo9sO-Fn28Wwug

I rechecked them they are in the right spot. And I made sure the EPC/PC-A had the middle locating tab and not the low. This is what it looks like.

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Ace00 · Jul 5, 2017

Ok update. So I decide to put my old solenoids back in except the epc/pc-a cause I didn't want to pull the valve body back off. So I put fluid in it and now I'm back to my old original problem where when I put it in R or D it jerks and stalls but not when I put it in 1 or 2. And when I put it in 1 or 2 it doesn't stop when it pulls like the new solenoids did. So I'm guessing the problem is one of the new solenoids isnt working properly. Which would be my luck. Is this a fair assessment? And if so how do I know which one is not working properly?

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Mark Kovalsky · Jul 5, 2017

The only way I can see this happening is if the intermediate clutch and the direct clutch are both on at the same time. If you had swapped SSPC-C and SSPC-D That would cause both clutches to come on when they should both be off.

Ace00 · Jul 5, 2017

Mark Kovalsky said:
The only way I can see this happening is if the intermediate clutch and the direct clutch are both on at the same time. If you had swapped SSPC-C and SSPC-D That would cause both clutches to come on when they should both be off.

So does that mean that 2 solenoids could be bad or maybe there are multiple problems with the solenoids and something else?

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Mark Kovalsky · Jul 6, 2017

It could mean that the solenoids for SSPC-C and SSPC-D are swapped, i.e., the solenoid that belongs in the hole for SSPC-C is the one that goes in SSPC-D and vice versa.

Ace00 · Jul 6, 2017

Mark Kovalsky said:
It could mean that the solenoids for SSPC-C and SSPC-D are swapped, i.e., the solenoid that belongs in the hole for SSPC-C is the one that goes in SSPC-D and vice versa.

Ok I gotcha. But I checked and rechecked and all the solenoids are in the right spot. I wonder if I change just the SSPC-C and the
SSPC-D with the new solenoids I purchased?

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powerlifter405 · Jul 13, 2017

shmoozer said:
The only reason Mark asks is because he IS the 5R guru around here. There is nothing about these transmissions that he doesn't know about. If anyone can help you figure it out it's him.

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If memory serves me correct he was on the design team as the head engineer for the 5R110 thus I do respect his input on any of the Ford trans.

wedge542 · Jul 14, 2017

Dont the solenoids have a low tab and a middle tab to keep from mixing them up ?

Constructionworker · Jul 14, 2017

wedge542 said:
Dont the solenoids have a low tab and a middle tab to keep from mixing them up ?[/QUOTE yes

wedge542 · Jul 15, 2017

How can you mix up those then,the d and a are both low tabs,the c is a high tab,cant get the c clip on if not in right spot.

wedge542 · Jul 16, 2017

ACE, did you get it fixed?

Mark Kovalsky · Jul 17, 2017

powerlifter405 said:
If memory serves me correct he was on the design team as the head engineer for the 5R110 thus I do respect his input on any of the Ford trans.

Not quite. I was an engineer developing the calibration for the diesel version of the 5R110. The aftermarket calls the calibration the tunes.

wedge542 · Jul 17, 2017

Mark,how can those solenoids get mixed,if in the wrong place you would not be able to get the c clips back on or is there another way?

Ace00 · Jul 17, 2017

Ok so I got the problem fixed. I went to my friend at the ford dealership and told him the situation. He said he can get me all new solenoids and bring the others back and he'll mark as defective. I did and put in the other ones he gave me. My truck runs fine now with no problems. The possibility that all 7 solenoids were bad is highly unlikely but I'm almost positive at least 1 wasn't working properly. And I didn't know how to check each individual solenoid. Thanks all for the help.

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wedge542 · Jul 17, 2017

Mine did same thing,lock up after putting in drive,or fill like its hung in two gears like foward and reverse, id gas on it and it go and no more problems untill shut truck off,then next time same thing, changed out the d solenoid and alls well. Looks like d and a are same,d in rear center and a in front pass side of valve[solenoid]body,ohmed out great,just like new one.