Toyo decision time

powerjoke4life · Jan 4, 2016

I am a fan of the Nitto's, I am on my second pair of Trail Grapplers but I think next I will be getting the Exo Grapplers. They should be very comparable to the Toyo R/T and IMO look much better.
http://www.nittotire.com/light-truck-tires/exo-grappler-all-weather-traction-light-truck-tire/

Here is a pic I found of them on a dually

Black AOD · Jan 4, 2016

Josh@DirtyDiesels said:
Loving these R/T so far.

Not cool Bro. At least we have different wheel sizes LOL

http://s27.postimg.org/8jheib7yr/20150616_162236.jpg

Josh@DirtyDiesels · Jan 4, 2016

BlackSmoke08 said:
Not cool Bro. At least we have different wheel sizes LOL

http://s27.postimg.org/8jheib7yr/20150616_162236.jpg

LOL yeah I have these lame 18s for winter.

spooledplatinum · Jan 4, 2016

Not looking to get away from the Toyos, but I would consider the Terra Grappler G2s as well. They look similar to the AT2s and I dont think they are as loud.

sootie · Jan 4, 2016

spooledplatinum said:
Not looking to get away from the Toyos, but I would consider the Terra Grappler G2s as well. They look similar to the AT2s and I dont think they are as loud.

they wear out much quicker.

NickPic83 · Jan 4, 2016

Buddie of mine has the G2'S and they have lasted him nearly 70,000 miles on stock size wheel on a 08 CCSB with 6.4

I have the G2's on my 13 CCSB lifted in 355/60/20 for a little while now and they seem to be wearing well, ride smooth and pretty quiet but I do wish I had something a little more aggressive/knobby looking

Jomax · Jan 4, 2016

I love my G2s I expect at least 50k by the looks of it.

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c63 AMG · Feb 15, 2016

I have Toyo AT2s came on my stock 20s, 2015. I don't care for them because they are very slick in the wet or even damp road. Anything over 10% throttle and tires are spinning. I can't even pull into traffic without a big gap because I know I will be spinning.

Had them in the snow twice now and they spin like crazy as well. Even just an inch of snow sitting on a slight incline I'm spinning bad with light throttle. Will say rear is set about 65psi which is how they came so maybe it's to much?

Considering trying RT hoping they are better. I will say AT2 are quiet.

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ckrueg · Feb 16, 2016

c63 AMG said:
I have Toyo AT2s came on my stock 20s, 2015. I don't care for them because they are very slick in the wet or even damp road. Anything over 10% throttle and tires are spinning. I can't even pull into traffic without a big gap because I know I will be spinning.

Had them in the snow twice now and they spin like crazy as well. Even just an inch of snow sitting on a slight incline I'm spinning bad with light throttle. Will say rear is set about 65psi which is how they came so maybe it's to much?

Considering trying RT hoping they are better. I will say AT2 are quiet.

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That's interesting. I have 295 65 r20 at2 on my 2010. It's a super cab long bed so no weight over the rear and they are great. Compared to my cooper at they are much better in the snow and wet roads. also I'm running 40 psi which seemed to help

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c63 AMG · Feb 16, 2016

ckrueg said:
That's interesting. I have 295 65 r20 at2 on my 2010. It's a super cab long bed so no weight over the rear and they are great. Compared to my cooper at they are much better in the snow and wet roads. also I'm running 40 psi which seemed to help

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I think my tire pressure could be affecting it some. I did however read on another forum people had similar issues as me. It's almost as if the tire compound is to hard.

On my C63 in the winter my Michelin PSS get hard as rock and are worthless. That's pretty much how the AT2 feel with any kind on moisture. Ice skates.

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ThreeBigFords · Jul 10, 2016

I'm also a huge fan of Toyo tires, ran 6 sets of the 35" MT's on 2 Superduty's and an Excursion. My next set was going to be the Toyo RT's. Then I sold the F350 and moved up to the F450.

That's where my love of Toyo's ended.

Having moved up to the 19.5 Alcoa wheels that come stock the 2015 and up F450's, my tires choices became rather limited. The stock Continental HSR's with only 10k miles on them were smooth and quiet, but lacked any kind of traction on anything but bone dry pavement.

Being a Toyo fan, I opted for the Toyo M608z on all 6 tires. BIG MISTAKE! Truck was almost dangerous to drive. Even the tire shop manager noted that it was diffuclt to keep the truck in it's lane. Horrible bouncing, shaking at all speeds, serious tire squirm and extremely loud. ( remember I'm used to Toyo MT's)

After 4 attempts at rebalancing, replacing two of the new tires, having to buy two new wheels after destroying the front wheels, the tire shop manager conferred with his corporate headquarters, and decided the best bet was to switch to Michelin XDS2's.

Man...it's like night and day.
Truck rides smooth again, easily half the noise of the Toyo's, almost no tread squirm, and better traction to boot.

So...while I'm still a huge fan of the Toyo MT and RT...once you hit the commercial truck tire sizes, pay the upcharge and stick with Michelin. Lesson learned. Hope this can save someone else the 2 months of irritation I just went through.

Brad.S.19 · Jul 11, 2016

ThreeBigFords said:
I'm also a huge fan of Toyo tires, ran 6 sets of the 35" MT's on 2 Superduty's and an Excursion. My next set was going to be the Toyo RT's. Then I sold the F350 and moved up to the F450.

That's where my love of Toyo's ended.

Having moved up to the 19.5 Alcoa wheels that come stock the 2015 and up F450's, my tires choices became rather limited. The stock Continental HSR's with only 10k miles on them were smooth and quiet, but lacked any kind of traction on anything but bone dry pavement.

Being a Toyo fan, I opted for the Toyo M608z on all 6 tires. BIG MISTAKE! Truck was almost dangerous to drive. Even the tire shop manager noted that it was diffuclt to keep the truck in it's lane. Horrible bouncing, shaking at all speeds, serious tire squirm and extremely loud. ( remember I'm used to Toyo MT's)

After 4 attempts at rebalancing, replacing two of the new tires, having to buy two new wheels after destroying the front wheels, the tire shop manager conferred with his corporate headquarters, and decided the best bet was to switch to Michelin XDS2's.

Man...it's like night and day.
Truck rides smooth again, easily half the noise of the Toyo's, almost no tread squirm, and better traction to boot.

So...while I'm still a huge fan of the Toyo MT and RT...once you hit the commercial truck tire sizes, pay the upcharge and stick with Michelin. Lesson learned. Hope this can save someone else the 2 months of irritation I just went through.

Another good tire in 19.5 wheel sizing is the goodyear g622 traction a fair amount of the customers at the shop i work for run them on landscaping and high scrub application vehicles.

Diezel_Dawg · Jul 12, 2016

Look into the Toyo 920s. We use them at work on our F550s and get good mileage out of them if rotated regularly. They are more an AT tire.

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Squat and Poot · Jul 12, 2016

UNBROKEN said:
I went from the MT to the AT2. They're maybe 1/2 as loud and handle twice as good. Best tire swap I've ever done.

x2 love mine, on second set

Tarheel_6.4L · Jul 26, 2016

I'm loving my Toyo RT's so far. Coming from the a set of MT's, I don't plan on running another tire. Now it's time to see if they hold up to the 45,000 mile warranty.

mohead1 · Jul 26, 2016

Im also using the Goodyear G622's on my 08 4-Fifty.....little noisy...but good looking and good traction. Seem to have long tread life so far

Horsemover · Oct 18, 2016

6.0L Stroker said:
Yes sir 2 inch rear spacer. Without they basically touch. View attachment 41094

I know this was an older thread but you don't happen to have a pic from the rear with the 2" spacer do you?

crash86 · Jan 12, 2017

Is anybody running toyo rt's 33x12.50 on a 20x12 wheel? I have the mt's now just doing a little research on my next tire. Just wanting a little quieter ride and to see how they look. Thanks!

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Cheap6.7 · Jan 12, 2017

Ran the r/t and they last forever with good traction. Have the C/T now and they are a lot better on wet roads and just as good in dirt. That's all I have for experience so far. Also just as loud as r/t to.