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Old 04-06-2019, 08:50 PM
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Question Time for HPFP & Turbo Upgrade on my 13'. Questions

What are yall's opinions on turbo's for someone that tows heavy? (Yes I've used the search and I know there is a turbo sticky thread but its pretty out of date).

I am looking for a little extra trailer pulling power. Its far from a race truck but if the speed limit is 75, I wanna do that even with 20k behind me.

I know I need a 15+ turbo and Install kit, but If I'm spending the money to upgrade, I want something better than just a "stock" 2015 turbo.

As far as I know, options are:
~Midwest Diesel MP64S.
~Fleece Performance 63mm FMW
~KC Turbos Stage 2 64mm

Truck pulls great right now. But I cant seem to leave anything alone and wonder how much better she can be.

Only fuel upgrade will be a 2015+ HPFP

Any other options out there that I need to consider?

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Old 04-06-2019, 09:26 PM
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Might be worth giving Midwest a call to see. I am pretty sure they could be a one stop shop for you.
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:19 PM
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Ive driven the kc truck with the 64 on it, and it was great. No noticeable loss in spool, pulled great on the top. I did drive it with my trailer hooked to it for a short while after I blew my motor up, and it seemed to tow fine as well. And my trailer aint a baby, its a 38ft fifth wheel. No temp issues, sueging issues, or smoking issues with it. And this was with a 10mm pump on it if I remember right, or it may have been with a 15 pump. I know we had changed some stuff around at that point, but I dont remember if the pump was changed prior to me towing with it or not.

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Old 04-07-2019, 04:47 AM
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Pick your poison. All turbos mentioned will do the same thing. If you aren't going bigger than a 15 pump, it's really a mute point.

The differences show up when you add fuel. Anything bigger than a 15 pump and I would run a turbo with a larger turbine to try and control the extreme back pressure.
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Since i have towed with a dereeted 2012 6.7 and now own a 15 6.7... you would be just fine and its close to 100hp difference in power. Im afraid that when towing heavy, that i would be concerned with the transmission more than the power upgrade. Its Its cheaper to go with a stock 15 turbo kit.. you might not be able to tow in a all out hot tune anyway.

But if money isn't an option then go big or go home. Lol.

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Ive driven the kc truck with the 64 on it, and it was great. No noticeable loss in spool, pulled great on the top. I did drive it with my trailer hooked to it for a short while after I blew my motor up, and it seemed to tow fine as well. And my trailer aint a baby, its a 38ft fifth wheel. No temp issues, sueging issues, or smoking issues with it. And this was with a 10mm pump on it if I remember right, or it may have been with a 15 pump. I know we had changed some stuff around at that point, but I dont remember if the pump was changed prior to me towing with it or not.

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Thanks for the info. Ill keep that in mind.

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Pick your poison. All turbos mentioned will do the same thing. If you aren't going bigger than a 15 pump, it's really a mute point.

The differences show up when you add fuel. Anything bigger than a 15 pump and I would run a turbo with a larger turbine to try and control the extreme back pressure.
Ok thank you

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Since i have towed with a dereeted 2012 6.7 and now own a 15 6.7... you would be just fine and its close to 100hp difference in power. Im afraid that when towing heavy, that i would be concerned with the transmission more than the power upgrade. Its Its cheaper to go with a stock 15 turbo kit.. you might not be able to tow in a all out hot tune anyway.

But if money isn't an option then go big or go home. Lol.

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Money is always a concern! lol

I didn't realize there would be that big of a power difference in a stock 15 upgrade. That would be plenty of power to do anything I need to.

I appreciate all your input.

Thanks!
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:10 AM
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For most guys, the 15 pump and 17 turbo is enough. Drives like stock, with OEM reliability, and makes 580HP at the tire with correct tuning.
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:13 AM
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Thanks for the info. Ill keep that in mind.







Ok thank you







Money is always a concern! lol



I didn't realize there would be that big of a power difference in a stock 15 upgrade. That would be plenty of power to do anything I need to.



I appreciate all your input.



Thanks!
Yep. Like sootie said. Factory parts. Easier to get if issues arise.

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Old 04-08-2019, 06:26 PM
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Sounds like that's what Ill go with then. Much Appreciated!
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