Supporting power mods

67boost · Mar 27, 2015

Hello everyone!

I'm new to PSA, but not new to diesel performance (came from the cummins world). I recently picked up a 2011 6.7 and have already done a TON of reading and research as to how y'all get power out of them. Truck isn't currently deleted, but it will be soon, and mods will be on the way.

Due to the wealth of information out here already, I'm not asking HOW y'all are making this power. I understand the turbo kits, fueling and tuning. No problem there. What I'm curious to know is "insurance" mods. Things that keep the motor from letting go. Again, I'm from the cummins world. For me, valve springs, head studs, trans mods and so on are necessary for any significant power goals. I currently still own my 2002 Ram that dynoed at 721hp on a small shot of spray.

What do these trucks like for insurance? My goals would probably be in the 650-700hp range. I've searched and searched to no avail for this information.

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks
Brian

UNBROKEN · Mar 27, 2015

700 on a 2011? You're gonna need rods. LOL

Cheap6.7 · Mar 27, 2015

650-700hp rods and a built tranny if you drive it hard. Welcome

ramonpowerstroker · Mar 27, 2015

ramonpowerstroker · Mar 27, 2015

Welcome to the forum as well!!

67boost · Mar 27, 2015

Surprising...

With all the reading I've done, people were saying they were making 600-700 on stock internals? Was this for 2015s maybe?

Thanks for the welcome!

BOHICA256 · Mar 27, 2015

Yeah have I missed something? I don't remember reading once that you needed rods to make that kind of power

Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Mar 27, 2015

67boost said:
Surprising...

With all the reading I've done, people were saying they were making 600-700 on stock internals? Was this for 2015s maybe?

Thanks for the welcome!

Rods. stock rods 700HP? boom a window in the block LOL.

67boost · Mar 27, 2015

BOHICA256 said:
Yeah have I missed something? I don't remember reading once that you needed rods to make that kind of power

I've read it several times.. Not sure where the discrepancy is.

BOHICA256 · Mar 27, 2015

67boost said:
I've read it several times.. Not sure where the discrepancy is.

First time I've heard of it. Guess I'll see how long my bottom end lasts when it's all said and done. Don't plan on doing rods until compounds. If I even get that far

67boost · Mar 27, 2015

Powerstroke Man 6.4 said:
If you want it to "last" you gotta get rods yes the stock bottom end will last for "a little" then boom a window in the block LOL.

Makes enough sense. Though, it's a little disappointing the rods aren't capable of withholding that amount of power, though I guess Ford didn't anticipate I'd want to mod out the truck. Probably seems senseless to them:naughty:

What else is necessary on these motors besides rods to safely achieve this power level?

sootie · Mar 27, 2015

tuning plays a massive role in whether rods survive.

BOHICA256 · Mar 27, 2015

sootie said:
tuning plays a massive role in whether rods survive.

This has been my understanding this entire time.

Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Mar 27, 2015

67boost said:
Makes enough sense. Though, it's a little disappointing the rods aren't capable of withholding that amount of power, though I guess Ford didn't anticipate I'd want to mod out the truck. Probably seems senseless to them:naughty:

What else is necessary on these motors besides rods to safely achieve this power level?

The only engines "factory built" to handle that much power on a stock bottom end is us 6.4 guys we got some guys running 1000 HP on stock 6.4 bottom end. I bet you could make a stock 6.7 bottom end survive at 700 HP level like sootie said all about them tuning.

67boost · Mar 27, 2015

sootie said:
tuning plays a massive role in whether rods survive.

So proper tuning, plus common sense, plus 600hp means I can drive the truck without worrying?

sootie · Mar 27, 2015

absolutely. talk to Morgan @ Midwest. his survives quite the thrashing

Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Mar 27, 2015

sootie said:
absolutely. talk to Morgan @ Midwest. his survives quite the thrashing

WHS^^

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Mar 27, 2015

There are plenty living at 600+. Just have to understand that if you want to play at that level that at anytime you could need a new short block if something lets loose. They are making it like, but it's nothing guaranteed.

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Platinum250Scorpion · Mar 28, 2015

Y'all talkin at the crank or wheels? I'm guessing the wheels but, just wanna clarify.

- A vet' that's gone from a 7.3 to a 6.7, tryin to gather info & help out when I can. New to the 6.7 & PSA. Please excuse my potential FNG ways.