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Old 05-23-2011, 06:32 PM
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Default How to make 400 - 500 RWHP - 6.0L

This thread is for sponsors/vendors (or users) to post a list of their dyno/race proven combination of parts and tunes to reach a good reliable 400 - 500 rwhp - 6.0L build.

The intent is giving users insight of what they need to buy and do to reach their RWHP goals.

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just a suggestion but maybe make it 400hp. there is a big gap in spending between 400-420ish (tuner, intake exhaust) and 450 which will usually at least take a set of injectors (155's) and a fuel system (along with studs etc) to make it safe. just IMO of course...
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Noted - I think folks can differentiate there post by saying with this setup I make 500, or 475, or 450, etc. Just want a repository of build lists and results as a reference for everybody.
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544/977 stock fuel system Vgt SSx 190 75s
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400- any sct tune
450-recipe#1, sct custom tunes, ficm tune, fuel system upgrade.
450-#2,Sct custom tunes 155cc injectors,fuel system upgrade.
500-175cc injectors with fuel sytem and supporting mods.

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i made 435 with just intake, exhaust, and custom SCT tune back in '06. All it would really take to reach the 450 mark would maybe be a tuned FICM. A tuned FICM will net 20-30hp. Or a little water injection will make it to the 450 mark also.
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i made 435 with just intake, exhaust, and custom SCT tune back in '06. All it would really take to reach the 450 mark would maybe be a tuned FICM. A tuned FICM will net 20-30hp. Or a little water injection will make it to the 450 mark also.
Yep I made 417 with intake, exhaust, and a race tune.
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What are you guys running for HP on 155's and Powermax on a tow setting?
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What are you guys running for HP on 155's and Powermax on a tow setting?
i bet high 400's (470ish)
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To make 500hp or over on a 07 6.0 what do you need to do besieds injections to the fuel system ?
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To make 500hp or over on a 07 6.0 what do you need to do besieds injections to the fuel system ?
175-190cc injectors, Airdog 2 or FASS 150 pump, Powermax turbo or 64/70 non vgt, custom tuned SCT. This will get you over 500hp.

To make it reliable you should ****** the EGR, put a coolant filter on and put ARP or H-11 headstuds in.
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aftermarket lift pump and regulated return would def be fuel system mods I would do. I'm actually installing a reg return tomorrow...
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aftermarket lift pump and regulated return would def be fuel system mods I would do. I'm actually installing a reg return tomorrow...
Off topic but thats a sweet pic of your truck in your avatar!
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thanks mane! there's some fullsize ones in the superduty pic thread....
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I dynoed last weekend and made 448hp 787torque. With TSD tunes, exhaust,intake, Sct, headstuds, egr ******, 6.4 banjo bolts and an 03 turbo!!
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Them are awesome numbers with those mods...congrats.
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looks like tsd has some of the best tunes for a 6.0...
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Just got the Nov issue of Diesel Power. Are the power combo mods they list for certain hp lvls correct or is this just a basic guideline to go by? Just because it's in a mag doesn't necessarily mean it's accurate, right?
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I just dynoed yesterday and got 451\999 on TSD tunes, S&B, MBRP turbo back straight pipe, EGR ******, ARP's, 6.4L banjo's, blue spring and a tuned FICM. Several runs and probably 50 people saw it.
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Yeah, but its a phone pic and it sucks. It's actually the stock FICM lines laid over the modded FICM lines
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Nice numbers! that even beat your goal didnt it?
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It beat my goal and thank you Chris! The tune is awesome. The early lock up does take a little getting used to but it runs great and the power is as smooth as anyone could expect throughout. BTW, I had to order new aluminum oil and fuel caps form Vivian on Thursday and she had nothing but good things to say about you and TSD. I hope you appreciate these numbers cause I'm lovin' em'.
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Here's mine. A week later the trans went out lol
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It beat my goal and thank you Chris! The tune is awesome. The early lock up does take a little getting used to but it runs great and the power is as smooth as anyone could expect throughout. BTW, I had to order new aluminum oil and fuel caps form Vivian on Thursday and she had nothing but good things to say about you and TSD. I hope you appreciate these numbers cause I'm lovin' em'.
Tell Vivian I said hi! We used to use her and DJ's tunes a few years back and we're always totally happy w/ them. The only reason we started tuning ourselves was when they decided to get out of the game for a little while. She is good people!
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TSD will be gettin' some calls for tunes from some of our GPDA members. About 30 people saw my truck do those numbers 4 times on a loaded dyno and everyone who showed up throughout the day (90-100 people) heard about it. The video is up on the GPDA page at the .org and it'll be on our facebook page as well.
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if you guys have tuning questions, shoot me an email at buhidar@trucksourcediesel.com.

Also, if you are ready to order, best to way to place the order is call the shop at the number Steve posted above.

210 654 6767.

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if you guys have tuning questions, shoot me an email at buhidar@trucksourcediesel.com.

Also, if you are ready to order, best to way to place the order is call the shop at the number Steve posted above.

210 654 6767.

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480/905 on a powermax and 190/75's fuel only
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I just dynoed at PHP on 11 Feb, 454rwhp and 980lb/tq with an intake (aFe Stage II), exhaust (5" MBRP), tune (Matt @ ********'s SRL+), and a FICM tune from Bill at PHP.
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I just dynoed at PHP on 11 Feb, 454rwhp and 980lb/tq with an intake (aFe Stage II), exhaust (5" MBRP), tune (Matt @ ********'s SRL+), and a FICM tune from Bill at PHP.
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175s, stock turbo, studs, ******** tuning, stock transmission and fuel system.

Who runs it and how does it act?
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So many people start out with chips,exhaust,intake and go from there. However inorder to acheive some of these horsepower ratings I have a few questions.

Where do you start first?

What I mean by this is if I truely want to acheive 400-500 rwhp what part of the vehicle should be upgraded first? Transmission, bottom end top end, etc etc.

I figure if I want to reach 400-500 rwhp and progress from there, there should be proper steps that should take place. If we (powerstoke army members) could get a list of which steps in order should take place first to last.

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Id say an SCT w custom tunes, gauges, ARP's, exhaust, healthy stock or upgraded pump and a FICM tune should get you over 400
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I understand that. However what I am trying to figure out is at what point do you upgrade engine and driveline components. So how much can my stock 5r110 actually handle? At what point do I start to upgrade the eternals of my motor?

My next upgrades IMO are:

Drivien diesel fuel system
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My other concern is Turbo. eveyone has there own opinion and im open to all of them. What size what brand? I would like quick spooling with a wide range of horsepower capabilities. I know thats oxymoron but there has to be a great option out there. Somewhere in the 500 to 800hp range.
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for 400-500 you don't need to upgrade engine parts, it wouldn't hurt to do pushrods when you are doing studs since they are cheap insurance. my 5r110 ran strong at 480hp and probably would have been fine at 500hp.

I would say a powermax with stock injectors even up to a 190/100 with proper tuning, and a 190-205 injector for an s364/71/.70. as for anything close to 600 hp and on requires compounds or a large single (sacrificing drivability) and 225 conventionals or larger hybrids.
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I understand that. However what I am trying to figure out is at what point do you upgrade engine and driveline components. So how much can my stock 5r110 actually handle? At what point do I start to upgrade the eternals of my motor?
You'll know when it's time to upgrade because things will begin to break. All your internal engine components will be fine in the 400-500hp range except the TTY bolts. You say you have ARP's so your good to go there(I hope you have OEM and not black gaskets). 400-500hp, put a GoGo direct clutch solenoid in the tranny and keep the fluid clean. Maybe think about an aftermarket torque converter when you get above 450hp.
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I have the OEM ford Gaskets. My buddy just installed the black onyx ones and they took a crap on him.

Thanks for the input on the tranny. What torque converter do you recommend? Any tranny suggestions. A friend of mine went with a BD and went throught 2 of them. They have decent customer service however.
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Sun Coast for trans and torque converter or I've heard good things about Twisted Transmisson too.
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Kinda embarrassed to say, but i put down 406/759 at **********s dyno last year. 06 6" lift on 37s, 205cc RCD, air dog 150, stage 5 tranny, swamps mild 58v ficm, sct ********** xrace, bully dog intake, cfm+, reg return, arp studs, RCD egr ****** and 5" exhaust. I was highly dissapointed, but recently bought an air dog II...hoping it helps with the high rpm fuel cut out issues i was having.
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The 37's were hurtin' you, but what turbo were you runnin'?
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sounds like you need a turbo. must've been hot on the EGT's
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Sorry, forgot to mention that. Elites Powermax VGT SSX
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woah..my buddy had 611 with that same setup..something isn't right. Your injectors should be flowed
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flowed?...not sure what this means. i just had to send them back to RCD...for the second time due to deteriorating o rings. they re-sealed them and sent them back without mentioning any problems.
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what size nozzle? A buddy of mine with a RR, 205/100 elite injectors, and a VGT SSX...put down 611hp
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like i mentioned before i was having pretty bad fuel cut out (cracking) in the high rpms..i havent installed the AD II to see if that helps yet. I have been running an original AD 150
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not sure what size nozzle. i bought the truck with the sticks installed
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mine was live tuned, with a race ficm at the time.

have you checked back pressure, is the turbo functioning correctly?
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i havent checked, but the truck put down 371 a couple months before ********** running the factory charger
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with injectors in it? if so you have a major fueling issue.
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that doesn't seem right. stock FICM, stock injectors, intercooler, and a powermax gave me 383 on fuel on a loaded dyno
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if the AD II doesnt help i guess ill have to tear farther into it...unfortunately. this truck has been nothing but a money pit since the day i bought it
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that doesn't seem right. stock FICM, stock injectors, intercooler, and a powermax gave me 383 on fuel on a loaded dyno
with all that being stock and the addition of the powermax.....you should've been well over 400hp with a race tune. With normal mods(intake, exhaust and a race tune), hp should be over 400 and most likely closer to around 440ish with live tuning i would think.
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unless your at crazy low PSI, you shouldn't be even 100hp off, either that or a major ICP issue
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with all that being stock and the addition of the powermax.....you should've been well over 400hp with a race tune.
the dyne was off I think, I was the first person on it. Mustang MD-800. I was 480 on fuel with a pmax and 190/75's
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ok...yeah mustang dyno's are junk from ive heard.
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if the AD II doesnt help i guess ill have to tear farther into it...unfortunately. this truck has been nothing but a money pit since the day i bought it
if you end up tearing into it and want to ditch that charger give me a heads up.
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ill more than likely keep the charger. id like to get rid of my factory one if you know anyone interested pm me.
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ill more than likely keep the charger. id like to get rid of my factory one if you know anyone interested pm me.
What year and what condition is it in? Any shaft play?
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out of an 06 133k mi..normal wear
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How much? I was thinking more about an 03' turbo but if the price is right....maybe I clean it up for a spare and throw a Batmo in mine.
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was thinkin $400 shipped but shoot me an offer
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if the AD II doesnt help i guess ill have to tear farther into it...unfortunately. this truck has been nothing but a money pit since the day i bought it
I had one of those too, it takes a toll on a wallet after awhile. I loved the idea of the truck but couldn't handle dishing it out for no return so it went away lol.
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ok...yeah mustang dyno's are junk from ive heard.

of course this is word on the street, with a shop 10 minutes from my house that has a mustang dyno...

There a superflow about 45 minutes from me, going to se if they will run a dyno day this spring.
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There is nothing wrong with a well maintained Mustang dyno, it's usually operator error that causes issues with dyno's and results.
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can say the same thing about a 6 liter
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anyone forgetting a built transmission? putting the power to the ground helps!!!
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The 5R110 can handle 500hp with the right tranny tuning.
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Seems most of my issues are solved. Havent put enough miles or ran it hard enough to know for sure but, I had a bad speed sensor which seemed to be throwing everythig way off. I got it replaced and the truck runs fine all the way through rpms with noticably better shiftsStill throwing an Ad II on theis weekend. funny how the simple stuff causes the biggest problems
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is the speed sensor located on the trans?
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as far as i know, yes. the ford garage worked on it because my abs light wouldnt shut off
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Custom tuner SCT, exhaust, intake, GT4088 and nitrous. 500hp. 7985 race weight.13.49 @98mph.
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When was this and did you have any FICM tuning? I would thin Nitrous would put you way over 500 with that setup.
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When was this and did you have any FICM tuning? I would thin Nitrous would put you way over 500 with that setup.
I just went to the HP calculator and punched in my track times.

It was also 100 degrees at the track that day..dieing to get back.
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its in the rear end
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When was this and did you have any FICM tuning? I would thin Nitrous would put you way over 500 with that setup.
Nitrous won't get you a whole lot if you don't have the fuel to go with it. A little over 500 hp is about all you can get with the fuel from stock injectors.

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its in the rear end
Where did you hear this? I just replaced my speed sensor, it is located in the extension housing of the transmission betweenthe transmissionand the transfer case.
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Nitrous won't get you a whole lot if you don't have the fuel to go with it. A little over 500 hp is about all you can get with the fuel from stock injectors.



false, there are people laying down 12 second times on stock injectors, which puts one well over the 500 hp mark nearing 600 all with nitrous of course.
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Is ********** good or did I waste my money because I did my research and they do most of the ppl in the diesel magazines
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********** is one of the best. My truck always ran good with his tunes.
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Wow java in you sig your family owns all diesels made by ford which one you like the best ? 7.3,6.0,6.4,6.7?
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I made 436hp sotck injectors running 5" turbo back, S&B intake, no limit cold side and ******** srlx... Hoping to have php ficm this spring And a mad hybrid turbo. Wanna see how much the stock injectors will do


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Is there power gains or loss swooping from '05 to '03 turbo or only real difference is whistle
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That set up using a MTW stage 2, 175/100 injectors, airdog 150, a 58 volt FICM with PHP's atlas 80 tune and **********'s extreme race dynoed at 548hp at our event this passed Saturday.
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That's about exactly what I was lookin at except hopes for lived tune from Matt @ ******** afterwards
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That set up using a MTW stage 2, 175/100 injectors, airdog 150, a 58 volt FICM with PHP's atlas 80 tune and **********'s extreme race dynoed at 548hp at our event this passed Saturday.
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[QUOTE=smokedout250;469605]I made 436hp sotck injectors running 5" turbo back, S&B intake, no limit cold side and ******** srlx... Hoping to have php ficm this spring And a mad hybrid turbo. Wanna see how much the stock injectors will do

dont mean to jump in, did anyone do the ficm upgrade with that kind of setup to see the gains???
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theres a gain in power in the midrange and topend, it was good for .15 reduction in ET at the track in my 06.
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more than likely your truck has a good factory ficm calibration in it to make that power, im going to guess and say your ecm strategy is vxcf4x3 and ficm cal is am2al12. if that is true than the php ficm tuning isnt going to do anything for power over 2500rpm.
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more than likely your truck has a good factory ficm calibration in it to make that power, im going to guess and say your ecm strategy is vxcf4x3 and ficm cal is am2al12. if that is true than the php ficm tuning isnt going to do anything for power over 2500rpm.
Wow correct I actually have the gryphon now. An your right high end I didn't notice anything on the low end and throttle response is where I noticed the gain. I'm only running atlas 40.

So I've been thinkin about doing a powermax and 155s what kind I hp would that put down?


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Depends on nozzle. 155/stock....450-475.
Add a 30% probably 500...

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try the 80 or 100 tune. i recommend adding 15% line pressure to all the shifts when running custom tunes and the ficm tune.

155s and a pmax my guess would be 500.
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try the 80 or 100 tune. i recommend adding 15% line pressure to all the shifts when running custom tunes and the ficm tune.

155s and a pmax my guess would be 500.
Ill have to try it Matt just suggested only running the 40hp with his srlxx....


As for the 155s I missed out on a deal for a set super cheap was just wondering what they would do


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i didnt like the way the 40 felt in my truck with my bigger tunes. i like the 80 alot and it works good with my tow tune.
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I need to do some mixing and matching I'm hoping get a new setup this summer


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Matts tunes typically ran better on the economy file on stock nozzle trucks I tried it on.
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Matts tunes typically ran better on the economy file on stock nozzle trucks I tried it on.
That's what Matt said lol but he did recommend running a ficm tune


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the economy tune wont run much different than your current ficm tune, youll have inductive heat which you dont now, as far as a power difference very very mild.
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Throttle response is it,.,, I need to load a different tune and try it


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id say its about the same.
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How's everyone liking 155s what kinda hp is everyone seeing? Break 500hp?


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from looking around it seems 500 is acheivable, with the right turbo a little more.
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Powermax is what in looking at. I know mtw is on the top right now.... But I want to keep my stocker just in case I wanna sell the truck...


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honestly id go with an 03 turbo over the pmax with stock injectors.
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I know you can pick up an 03' turbo in great shape, rebuilt, for around $450 a lot if times. We prefer the 04-07 turbo's since they don't require a pedestal change for most guys. One of my GPDA members picked up a rebuilt 03' turbo for $250 last October. That would save you a little bit of money over the Pmax if you could get one at a good price. Nothing wrong with a Pmax and the right tuning either though.
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honestly id go with an 03 turbo over the pmax with stock injectors.
I was gonna do 155s with powermax. Not stock sticks


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I made 436hp sotck injectors running 5" turbo back, S&B intake, no limit cold side and ******** srlx... Hoping to have php ficm this spring And a mad hybrid turbo. Wanna see how much the stock injectors will do
Were these the ONLY mods you had? everything else stock? I'm having pretty much the same thing done right now minus the cold side pipe and was curious as to the power.
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All the mods I have we're studs, no limit cold side, S&B intake 5" straight pipe, blue spring and srlxx


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Just finished reading this entire thread. There's alot of great topics on power combos and what not, but nothing on reliability. You guys making power, especially at the 500whp mark, what kind of issues have you run into if any? And what kind of mileage have you put on your trucks since the mods were done? The local shop to me has been seeing a few cracked heads lately, anybody run into that?
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That's prob a no
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my guess is most guys at this hp mark...think im close but will know for sure in May, have replaced heads and studs...heads are known to crack at stock hp due to the other issues. If heads were cracking here due to hp it would be much more talk about it esp as guys got to the 600-700 hp mark.
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Yah that's what I'm starting to believe. I've been reading through this sit like crazy and haven't read a single thing about it.
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There have been some guys with cracked heads, but as previously stated, that stems from other issues. One of these issues being guys putting on a big tune and driving it like they stole it without monitoring things like EGT, Coolant temp, oil temp, etc. get an insight with an EGT probe ( or other monitoring device) and watch it. I've been up to 1800* on some tunes with stock injectors. Now I'm around the 500 mark on Eric's XtremeX and maxing out around 1400* on the same stock injectors. It's all in the tuning and how you drive and maintain. Throw a Bullydog on and don't monitor anything while driving like a 16yr old tryong to impress his buddies and you'll have problems. Get some good custom tunes ( all PSA sponsering tuners have what you need) and some good monitoring equipment like an Edge Insight and you'll be fine.
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Awesome thanks for all the input guys.
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Were these the ONLY mods you had? everything else stock? I'm having pretty much the same thing done right now minus the cold side pipe and was curious as to the power.
Hmm interested in see what I can do sometime... I have Studs and ******, SRLX.. MTW stage 1....Atlas 80 FICM tune...5" Flo-Pro straight and Airaide CAI. Rest is stock
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Well got a new setup... Hoping for some track times....

Mods=.
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175/00
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I thought there was no benefit by gojg. With a stock nozzle on even larger injectors!?
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I thought there was no benefit by gojg. With a stock nozzle on even larger injectors!?
Ask Jesse warren..... These are smokey bi***es.... They add power trust me..... Lol this is a very fun setup the larger nozzle does help yes. Anything over a 175 the stock nozzle hinders you at least that's what I have been told but I could be wrong


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Ask Jesse warren..... These are smokey bi***es.... They add power trust me..... Lol this is a very fun setup the larger nozzle does help yes. Anything over a 175 the stock nozzle hinders you at least that's what I have been told but I could be wrong


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The injectors where a gift from my fiancÚ. So I'm happy to have them lol


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What do you guys think about 190/stock
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Just curious as to what the power numbers would be for this setup.... Fully Bulletproofed and ******d, custom 5inch straight pipe, AFE CAI, TSD SPD tune with early lockup, ATLAS 40 FICM tune, 03 swap with batmowheel, stock sticks??? This is my current setup. Next is suncoast rebuild/converter and 175's or 190's
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Laid down 530hp on a dyno. Had 13.6 @ 7740lbs with an exhaust. Never got a chance to run it at the track with all the leaks fixed and a full fuel system.
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smokedout, whose tuning? and what size tires you running?
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yeah i thought we were running an almost identical set up. turbo differences and RR but otherwise very comparable.
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Nice work. For the price of stock nozzle injectors and the power you can get its hard to beat. How does the truck run with those injectors and no ficm tuning?
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Nice work. For the price of stock nozzle injectors and the power you can get its hard to beat. How does the truck run with those injectors and no ficm tuning?
Runs like a top! Very nice for a dd tow rig. The best thing about the stock nozzle is how you can tune them to be like stock or crank them way up. The Ficm tunning helped on the low end spool. At the top you'd never know the difference


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I thought there wasn't a noticeable difference by getting a injector with stock nozzles!?
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barrel size or cc (175's) is how much fuel the injector holds, nozzle size over stock (usually a %) is how fast that fuel is transferred to the cylinder...at least in a simple version. I can personally tell you 175/stock is a noticeable difference over stock my brother-in-law went 155/stock and he saw a difference in power and performance as well.

It's noticeably more powerful and way more fun to drive. I guess it comes down to $$ and preference but I'm happy with stock nozzles until I can support more fuel with more air.
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I had my truck dynoed this weekend,
My truck is a 05 F250 ext cab shortbed with studs, gaskets, egr ******, 6.4 banjos, blue spring mod, ccv mod, all updates, new oil cooler, coolant filtration, afe metal driverside intercooler pipe, air raid intake, 4" silverline dual exhaust, 35x12.5x18 tires, and a SCT ********** Xtreme Street tune. It put down a best torque of 652.62 and a best hp of 351.59 this Saturday and it was 55 degrees out. I was pretty happy with the numbers but I expected a little bit higher numbers after reading some of the similar set ups and numbers in this post. Still not bad though.
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I had my truck dynoed this weekend,
My truck is a 05 F250 ext cab shortbed with studs, gaskets, egr ******, 6.4 banjos, blue spring mod, ccv mod, all updates, new oil cooler, coolant filtration, afe metal driverside intercooler pipe, air raid intake, 4" silverline dual exhaust, 35x12.5x18 tires, and a SCT ********** Xtreme Street tune. It put down a best torque of 652.62 and a best hp of 351.59 this Saturday and it was 55 degrees out. I was pretty happy with the numbers but I expected a little bit higher numbers after reading some of the similar set ups and numbers in this post. Still not bad though.
Just my thoughts, but I'd have expected 80-100 more RWHP and 100-200 more lbs-ft as well as long as the truck was in good running condition.


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Yeah that's kinda what I was thinking. The truck is running real good and hasn't been giving me any problems.
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Just my thoughts, but I'd have expected 80-100 more RWHP and 100-200 more lbs-ft as well as long as the truck was in good running condition.


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It all seems good. I will have to check out the ficm voltages, it fires up fine and drives real strong. It started fine this morning cycling it twice then starting it in 10 degree weather.
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Maybe somebody slipped a 7.3L in there when you weren't looking. Those would be good numbers for a modded 7.3L. The rods would be ready to let loose though.


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I had my truck dynoed this weekend,
My truck is a 05 F250 ext cab shortbed with studs, gaskets, egr ******, 6.4 banjos, blue spring mod, ccv mod, all updates, new oil cooler, coolant filtration, afe metal driverside intercooler pipe, air raid intake, 4" silverline dual exhaust, 35x12.5x18 tires, and a SCT ********** Xtreme Street tune. It put down a best torque of 652.62 and a best hp of 351.59 this Saturday and it was 55 degrees out. I was pretty happy with the numbers but I expected a little bit higher numbers after reading some of the similar set ups and numbers in this post. Still not bad though.
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His truck is basically stock with a tune. The HP is about 80 over stock and the torque is about the same amount over stock. It could have been higher, but without knowing some of the engine parameters, it could be missing something to put down larger numbers but still runs well. Herein lies the problem, it may have been a good dyno run, but it may also be skewed compared to the next guys dyno for a variety of reasons. It would be nice to know if there was TC slip during the runs since that would definitely lower any expected results.
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What do you think my truck will dyno? Haven't dynoed it yet . I got 06 duallie tow boss package with Mbrp exhaust, bigger down pipe, erics xrace tune , cfm manifold with intercooler pipe, AFE intake , upgraded FICM, BTS 5r tranny, regulated return, air dog 2, power max turbo, arp head studs, reman stock injectors ? I also have a edge CTS stacked, but it's just on there to read vitals . And I'm pretty sure I have a egr ******.
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445ish.

Don't say stacked.

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Yea sorry about saying it's stacked. Because I'm not using it at all.But literary it is stacked because It will only work if I put the SCT on first on stock module . Then unplug the stock one and plug in the edge mod. After the sct is downloaded. I know the correct meaning just I've had people or mechanics still say you shouldn't do that. That it's unsafe. Even tho it's not stacking.
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Yea sorry about saying it's stacked. Because I'm not using it at all.But literary it is stacked because It will only work if I put the SCT on first on stock module . Then unplug the stock one and plug in the edge mod. After the sct is downloaded. I know the correct meaning just I've had people or mechanics still say you shouldn't do that. That it's unsafe. Even tho it's not stacking.
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What kinda numbers should I expect with my setup?
You have a fuel system ?
Why didn't you get the barder68?
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Yea nvm I see the ad2 but do you have a regualted return and fuel bowl?
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I'm thinkin low 500s to 600s if everything is running right . High 400s if something is not in sync, or needs to be fixed. Tsd said I should be running 600 with 225s from warren.
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I'm thinkin low 500s to 600s if everything is running right . High 400s if something is not in sync, or needs to be fixed. Tsd said I should be running 600 with 225s from warren.
as retarded as this sounds it's a good answer. just take it to a track.

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205/100's and a Stage 2? I'd say a really smokey 550-575 if he has the supporting fuel system mods and a health engine and trans.


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205/100's and a Stage 2? I'd say a really smokey 550-575 if he has the supporting fuel system mods and a health engine and trans.


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It's actually not smokey at all to be honest, I mean it smokes some dont get me wrong but its bit terrible. No regulated return as of now and I don't mash on it much simply because the AD2 just isn't the pump I thought it would be, I did the stage 2 because my stock one was completely gone and needed a new one in a hurry but didn't have the money for the 68mm. I would've loved to have it tho James was a good guy to work with. I plan on selling it sometime and getting the 68 and or he was tellin me he has been in the works for a 71 I would look into it he releases it.
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Drew told me he had the fuel almost tuned all the way but had a little more room when I decide to get a bigger turbo, but for now the stage 2 is plenty. If y'all think I'm at 550+ that's bout the breaking point of these trans so I don't want to kill it just yet lol, I'm bout to order the fuel lab 41402 and rebuild the fuel system first and get it up to par. This AD2 has went out on me numerous times.
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It's actually not smokey at all to be honest, I mean it smokes some dont get me wrong but its bit terrible. No regulated return as of now and I don't mash on it much simply because the AD2 just isn't the pump I thought it would be, I did the stage 2 because my stock one was completely gone and needed a new one in a hurry but didn't have the money for the 68mm. I would've loved to have it tho James was a good guy to work with. I plan on selling it sometime and getting the 68 and or he was tellin me he has been in the works for a 71 I would look into it he releases it.
Yea James is a mad scientist lol. And yea great guy. Very smart and builds reliable turbos. That's what I love
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I heard his builds boost faster than the original powermax.
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I heard his builds boost faster than the original powermax.
I never got a chance to run a powermax so I dk how good it spools, I have read a few threads about it being laggy if not tuned right. This stage 2 feels like I still have the stock one in there as fast as it spools, and I can tell a diff on the top end.
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Mine was tuned, it spooled pretty good but James told me you should definatley notice a difference. Yea that's how I could tell on my powermax. With my dually on the top
End from 70 to 90. It was so responsive . I have my barder 68 but it's getting installed as we speak.
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If my 03 hadn't crapped out on me I would've saved a little more to get the 68mm...but I ain't gonna lie I'm pretty impressed with this stage 2, its alot better than I thought it would be.
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If James built it I'm sure I would be impressed to. What side of the country are you from? I'm sure our trucks are pretty close on times. I got bigger injectors. But I also have a dually.
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Mines a ext cab short bed two tone grey and black, I'm over on the east coast in NC.
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I've actually never taken mine to the track, I go to all the events around here but haven't ran yet, I don't have a mind blowing set up so I wouldn't be turning any heads anyway lol... And up until about a month ago my truck was my only transportation so I didn't wanna risk walking to work if somthin was to go wrong lol

There are a few guys around here with close set ups to mine, he had 205/75s with a powermax he ran a 7.9, I have 100 overs and the stage 2 is a little bigger than that and I also have a ficm tune but I doubt it would be dramatically lower time with just that little bit extra.
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Yea man I would be scared if mine blew up to! But I just wanted a reliable truck. So I haven't gone to deep into my truck, or gone to crazy with it. I want mine to be a daily driver. That I can take to the track every now and then. Yea I live in Texas. I thought you maybe lived closer. 7.9 in a eighth mile? What about quarter?
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Yea 7.9 in the 1/8th was the lowest I seen him go, haven't seen him do a qrt run there is only a few around this way and he wasn't at the one that I went to in rockingham. He ran that 7.9 at Rudy's diesel day this past time he had the event
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How's that AD2 holding up for you?? It was by far the worst investment I made on my truck, I'm on my fourth pump in 2 years.
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How's that AD2 holding up for you?? It was by far the worst investment I made on my truck, I'm on my fourth pump in 2 years.
4 pumps bro?! Yea I'm on number 2. My motor crapped out after a year and a half. Right now I'm doing fine on number 2. It's been about another year and a half. I've had a fass before that. And I've heard worse things about fass. My brother would switch motors on there almost after he put them on.
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How does the psi hold at WOT? Mine will drop like a fly anything over 3/4 throttle
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Really ? Yours drops. It should stay steady. Do you have a regulated return and aftermarket fuel bowl?
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No reg return, stock fuel bowl...was gonna block the return line but never get around to it. Yea it'll drop around 40psi wot. I do run the 6.4 banjos
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That's a horrible idea.

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What is?

Capping the return line to hold pressure.

This thread is about setups that make the aforementioned horsepower. This is not a discussion thread regarding your trucks or ideas. Start another thread for that.


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Lol 6.4 banjos
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Lol 6.4 banjos
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Could you make this hp and still tow heavy?
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