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12-29-2011, 10:22 AM
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RCD 68mm Powermax
Anyone have experience with this turbo?
Hearing good things... http://www.rivercitydiesel.com/index...mart&Itemid=54
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12-29-2011, 10:25 AM
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Personally, and this isn't a bash at RCD by any means but I would just stick with the Garrett Powermax, its a little smaller but its also $800 cheaper.
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12-29-2011, 10:29 AM
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Wonder how it lights compared to a stock Pmax...with say 190s
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12-29-2011, 10:29 AM
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12-29-2011, 10:31 AM
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Is it just a modified garret pmax?
A garret pmax is 64ish mm correct?
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12-29-2011, 10:32 AM
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Id say it'll be a little slower, it would probably compare to a 64/70 non vgt.
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Do you tow at all with the truck or drive any hills?
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12-29-2011, 10:38 AM
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Spools like a powermax, barely any difference! Jared
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12-29-2011, 10:38 AM
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http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/sh...251#post196251
Just saw this also lol. Or what about one of RCDs S300 kits?
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On a street truck I would take a 68mm Powermax over a Nonvgt anyday. A couple guys have been running the 68mm with 155's. INSANE driveabiltiy for guys who tow alot. If I hadnt sold my 05, it would have gotten a 68pmx like Josh tried to talk me into in the first place..
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12-29-2011, 10:44 AM
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Are you dead set on your injector choice? I think it would run warm towing that weight with 190s.
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12-29-2011, 10:49 AM
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12-29-2011, 10:56 AM
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Where are you getting the 190's?
I don't have experience with the 68mm but I know the powermax was completely driveable. What ever happened to keeping this truck stock? A long time ago I put an 03 turbo on an 07 with industrial injection 190's with IDP tuning. Truck was able to tow 12k, daily drive, etc.... and ran 12.4's on nitrous. Oh, it was a CCLB on 35's and weighed 8200lbs.
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12-29-2011, 10:58 AM
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Injectors are from Dozers (Warren Diesel injectors) Thanks JJ! headgaskets are toast Marty. Cab's gotta come up anyway.... May be late Feb or so before this gets done. Just getting ducks in a row.
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12-29-2011, 11:05 AM
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I found this that compares the stock turbo to the actual garret powermax, not the modded RCD unit. Does RCD even mod them from the powermax or are they just using that name?
The specs are as follows: Comp Wheel=stock IND is 56.8, p-max is 63.5 stock EXD is 81.6, p-max is 88 Turbine Wheel= stock IND is 72.5, p-max is 72.5 stock EXD is 64, p-max is 66.5 A/R is .90 on the powermax.
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12-29-2011, 11:07 AM
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Jake Kelly @ KDP is running one with 225s IIRC - everyone that I know that has been in his truck says it runs awesome. Maybe give him or Matt a call for more info on it.
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12-29-2011, 11:08 AM
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What about surging with these larger vgt turbos? Can you tune all of the surging out?
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12-29-2011, 11:13 AM
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No problem man you will be very satisfied!
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You will love the 68 we have it on my brothers truck he tows with it daily drives it with 205s. With tuning proper tuning i would not be scared to pull anything. and it is way stronger than a reg powermax. The 68 is not lagy at all.
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12-29-2011, 11:34 AM
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How does drive pressure look with that charger? Wastegate recommended?
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Does anyone have any hard data, Track times? Dyno numbers? I would be interested if they made significant more power than a power max.
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12-29-2011, 12:01 PM
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Wanna chime in with what Jakes, truck made @ Scheids..
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12-29-2011, 12:20 PM
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Do they sell the stuff to upgrade the regular Powermax if someone already has one?
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These turbos are interesting to learn about. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk
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How would this turbo compare to the elite ssx??
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i was just looking this stuff up an wondering the same things. not wanting to pull offtopic but how bad would running 155's or 185(190's) be with the stock charger really until the powermax would go on?
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12-29-2011, 01:51 PM
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the shaft in my opinion is fine with a bigger wheel, its the lack of tuning (surging) that kills the shaft from over speeding it.
Josh seems to have the tuning DOWN on that 68mm vgt . But time will tell, that vid is a smokey pig! Laying out some serious numbers though. I'd like to ride in one on the street
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I just got back from a trip to the future (had to find out who won the superbowl so I could make my bet) and found this post you guys might find interesting...
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Good luck Gare, sounds like it is a pretty good turbo, and from what I've read and seen it seems something bigger than the regular powermax is needed specially for larger injectors
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well...not to be a killjoy gare but I'd think all bets are off on the stock "5r100" when you get north of 600. if i had the $ to do a trans when I did my turbo/injectors, i would have looked at the 68 with some 205's instead. might be something to think about.
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the 190's are plenty of fuel, i say a powermax is a waste to be honest if youre solely looking for power. Its going to be hard to get the 68mm vgt tuning right unless you have josh tune it. Unless you have the ability to have it live tuned.
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eric tuned my 68mm vgt years ago. he has no problem tuning them. Not sure how much different this charger is than the Vgt HO that i had but i could never even think about towing a gooseneck. Im not trying to bash but i remember rcd telling people that they could tow easily with a 66mm non vgt. Is this one of those times? Thats alot of wheel to turn. Again im not trying to start something but before people go and spend 2500 on a turbo, they need to know exactly what they are getting.
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This turbocharger is a local favorite, and we have TONS of them out and moving, they are just getting popular wide scale, mainly because outside of the website, Josh doesnt do much advertising up till now. Thats what I'm here for.. Ive driven many 68mm trucks, and they are street monsters. I've got quite a few of my personal customers running 155's with a 68mm and having amazing towing. There are also quite a few gentlemen out there running 68mm's with 180's and towing, and they love it. Then you get guys like Jake Kelly, 205's with a 68mm.. and still towing. Kid has definitely got balls, but he says its possible to tow, and he does it. That says something right there. I dont think I would personally do it, but I'm a sissy about that kind of stuff  Josh's modded powermax is a great idea, that is a very respectable friendly mannered charger for universal use. I for one, wouldnt be afraid to hop in a truck with a 68mm & 180's and deliver a load of hay just like I do with my truck with tow powers and 110's.. Thanks! Jared
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Jared, how is the throttle response/lag with the 68mm powermax with like a set of 190/75's compared to a 64/71/70 with 190/75's? Just curious cause my 64/71/70 with my casserly 190/75's run pretty good without too much lag.
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So your 05 6L setup was like mine and your buddy's truck had the 68mm powermax. I like how my 64mm pulls on the top end...not sure if i'd sacrafice losing some topend power for a little more response. Do you think it'd be worth it Jared?
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I know mine turned really hard up top. But I think the cam attributed to it heavily. Honestly, if I get another 6.0, it will get a 68mm PMaxx & 185's, hands down. The guy who hauls grain for me in the fall is getting ready to do the same set up. Its just the perfect street truck combination.
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Thanks for the info jared. How do you think both of them will differ Hp wise with 190/75's? Do you think the 68mm powermax and a 64/71/70 will be in the same ball park hp wise?
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I mean the egt temps wouldnt get over 1,300 when towing with 205s, But the truck was in a tow tune that was built specificly for his truck.
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I tow with 225s and a 66mm non vgt... It's doable, you just have to watch the gauges and have a tune with a lot of fuel pulled out, however, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a good combo to tow with. I haven't played with large vgts so I don't really know how well they light, but I would still think there would be lag issues with a turbo that size. It definitely sounds like it would be a nasty street setup though
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I think I need one here to test
 I honestly liked my vgt ho but egts were high in every tow tune. When I talk towing though im not talking about a little boat or anything light. I was traveling a lot at the time racing motocross all over and i couldnt hook up to my trailer due to not being able to keep egts down. Without the trailer i would hit 1200 up hill with the converter locked. Non vgt seems to keep egts in check better. What are the specs on the wheels?
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How many of you that I havent already spoken to are interested in modded powermax turbochargers. I have an extreme excess of 04.5-07 powermax's on my warehouse shelves right now.. Who wants to help me move them? If I get enough interest maybe we can get a discounted price going across the board! Jared
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01-01-2012, 09:33 AM
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heck...my turbo isn't even bolted to my pedistal...it just sits on it haha
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You goofy guys and your lack of bolts, haha. My first 05 had one of the first 03 Powermax's on it with 2 bolts, worked like a charm! Haha.
 I have A LOT of the 04.5-07 turbo's ready for modification, I'm just shorter stocked on 03-04's but we do have a few still. I will discuss terms for the 68mm turbo's tomorrow with the boss and see if we can work something out for a group deal for them! 
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Started a new thread to stop the derail of Garrett's. For those interested in getting on the buy in bandwagon, Simply post on the other thread with your information about your truck and we'll get a price together! Jared
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01-02-2012, 08:00 AM
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01-02-2012, 09:40 AM
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01-02-2012, 05:24 PM
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Good thing Garrett started this thread...........
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97 F-350, With a 7.3L Diesel. FF 300/200, Billet HX55, Stealth twins, AirDog2, 3:55 Gears, Lockers front and back, ZF6 tranny, ARP HS, 910 VS, stock 6.0 IC with DIY 3.5" IC pipes, And more.... 98% of the teenage population does, will try or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature. -MidnightBlade
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01-03-2012, 06:13 AM
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01-03-2012, 02:50 PM
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01-03-2012, 03:55 PM
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 Somehow, over a year and no popped turbo yet. I think thats a testament! Lol
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01-03-2012, 04:10 PM
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I think Gare just needs to pull the trigger on one of these and give us a review!
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01-03-2012, 06:26 PM
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01-03-2012, 06:43 PM
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01-04-2012, 07:41 AM
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 Hopefully we can throw another truck with spray on the dyno here soon, or we can talk kyle into putting his on. Or maybe.. Garrett or Danny want to spray theirs 
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01-04-2012, 01:24 PM
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just thinking out loud here. if 600 on fuel is possible with this turbo, its kinda looking like this turbo can support close to 700HP on juice?? kinda sounds like a time bomb to me but there again just thinking out loud
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01-04-2012, 01:36 PM
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I would think the drive pressures would be WAY high if spray were added. They are already high IMO with just fuel from large injectors, so I would agree that it sounds like a ticking time bomb. JMO and thinking out loud.
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01-04-2012, 03:26 PM
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i like this turbo lol
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01-06-2012, 07:11 AM
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01-07-2012, 10:13 AM
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We do offer a good price to modify your powermax into our modded one, and we have another design in the works, stay posted!
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01-07-2012, 10:19 AM
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How much do y'all offer on the modification to an existing?
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01-07-2012, 01:09 PM
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PM Sent!
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01-07-2012, 01:39 PM
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We've done testing with the 68mm and have dialed it in well. We'll be doing more drivability tuning with various injectors in the next few weeks.
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01-07-2012, 02:47 PM
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01-07-2012, 02:55 PM
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01-07-2012, 03:14 PM
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01-07-2012, 03:15 PM
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01-09-2012, 05:58 AM
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The powermax is still on the truck..not for long tho.. putting a 2.6 s400 on here soon.
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01-11-2012, 08:38 AM
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If anyone is still interested in these things as a buy in they are still available, closing down the PSA buy in on friday.
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01-11-2012, 11:43 AM
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What's the price? Never heard any details and never saw the thread that was suppose to be started.
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#149
01-11-2012, 11:54 AM
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http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11063
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01-11-2012, 12:24 PM
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Thanks man.
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01-12-2012, 10:15 AM
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For those that were interested in the 68mm Powermax our PSA Buy in ends today at 5pm central. Make sure you post on the link if your interested! Very good pricing
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01-12-2012, 06:24 PM
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How does the exhaust side on 68mm PMAX compare to the standard powermax?
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