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Old 08-08-2012, 02:30 PM
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Ok, so me and a few others need to know yalls experience, opinions and ulitimately, the truth as to whether lope tunes are hard on the injectors or not. TSD told me they were, Eric at ********** wrote a buddy of mine a lope tune and there was BARELY any lope. sounded like more of an injector issue than a lope and he clearly stated that he didnt want to go beyond those settings and didnt state why, but thats what im guessing. Discuss please
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Truth = Lope tunes are gay

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Heard a 7.3 with a lope tune over the weekend at Carlisle, sounded like crap. What's the point of even having the lope?
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Extreme X tune for the 6.0 comes with the option of a lope, it sounded pretty cool, but gets annoying pretty quick.
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I feel more bad azz when I have a high power truck that idles like stock lol
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Mine idles like that without a tune, with some time you can have yours do it too without a tune!
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Where can I get a lope tune for my 12V?
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Mine use to have a mean lope but deiseljim fixed the problem.
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Where can I get a lope tune for my 12V?
4k gov springs and a low idle.
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I dont personally care for the lope tune at all not would i get one..My buddy was so bent out of shape that his lope tune didnt lope right in his EX tune...I told him I have heard they were hard on injectors. TSD told me that as well. Just wanted to know if they were hard of injectors or no so i can clarify that to him. I wasnt asking if yall liked them. So if you hate them fine, if you love them fine..like i said. I told my buddy I would ask some of you guys on here what yall might have heard or had/hadnt had any bad experiences with them or not. FOr those of you who had good inputs, thank you.
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ANd again, youre in here..SO Im going to ask you MINK since you and the other 90% didnt read my OP right..I DONT CARE FOR THE LOPE TUNE. My buddy does. He was butt hurt that his tune didnt lope. SO MINK..Are they hard on injectors or not? Ive heard they are. Whats your take.
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Truth = Lope tunes are gay

Now close this before it turns into a total train wreck
not what i was asking. I dont care if yall think theyre gay. I dont care for them myself. I just told him i would ask on here whether they were hard on them or not.
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I've heard they cause wet stacking if its used for extended amounts of time.
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You will eventually get aids if you run a lope tune. From the gratuitous amounts of gayness coming out of your exhaust.
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I've heard they cause wet stacking if its used for extended amounts of time.
wet stacking?
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I'm guessing there is some truth to the intentional slope being hard on injectors. Especially since x tuner limited the amount of lope available. My 7.3 had one and I did it for my two year old son. It was annoying, gay, or whatever. Before you get pizzed, I'm making a point. It was kinda cute the first time I selected it. Ha ha, rrrr-rrr-rrrrr-rrrr. You need a stack or 5" exhaust for it to bark though. The chugging when you're in gear and stopped is fukkin stupid and dangerous though. It'll override the rear brakes when it's snowing and you'll go sideways sitting, stopped. The heui injectors are so flattery it just doesn't sound right.

You can pass that along with the info.that it could possibly be hard on the internals. In all fairness, the 6L inj aren't known for their reliability anyway.

I'm a one tune guy so I'm against it.
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ANd again, youre in here..SO Im going to ask you MINK since you and the other 90% didnt read my OP right..I DONT CARE FOR THE LOPE TUNE. My buddy does. He was butt hurt that his tune didnt lope. SO MINK..Are they hard on injectors or not? Ive heard they are. Whats your take.
So you want factual data to present your friend with so that he will give up the lope idea?

Goodluck, the bread of those wanting a lope tune really could care less about the performance of the truck - all they want is to sound powerful for racing slow cummings
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wet stacking?
Where the fuel doesn't get burnt all the way and starts washing the cylinder walls. It's the reason alot of guys use high idle in the winter.
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Mink, you are a douche bag and a half... Maybe some people are used to a choppy lope sound when they relate sound to power because of the traditional big block v8 high lift cam. So keep your smart ass immature comments to yourself... If you have a serious comment take contribute to someone's post then say it.. other wise, can it. People like you are what makes threads turn retarded and into a pissing match.. geeez...
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Mink, you are a douche bag and a half... Maybe some people are used to a choppy lope sound when they relate sound to power because of the traditional big block v8 high lift cam. So keep your smart ass immature comments to yourself... If you have a serious comment take contribute to someone's post then say it.. other wise, can it. People like you are what makes threads turn retarded and into a pissing match.. geeez...
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Lol sorry, just see this dude talking **** all the time and Nic is like a brother to me.. I just have a low tolerance for assholes.
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Where the fuel doesn't get burnt all the way and starts washing the cylinder walls. It's the reason alot of guys use high idle in the winter.
Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification
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I'm guessing there is some truth to the intentional slope being hard on injectors. Especially since x tuner limited the amount of lope available. My 7.3 had one and I did it for my two year old son. It was annoying, gay, or whatever. Before you get pizzed, I'm making a point. It was kinda cute the first time I selected it. Ha ha, rrrr-rrr-rrrrr-rrrr. You need a stack or 5" exhaust for it to bark though. The chugging when you're in gear and stopped is fukkin stupid and dangerous though. It'll override the rear brakes when it's snowing and you'll go sideways sitting, stopped. The heui injectors are so flattery it just doesn't sound right.

You can pass that along with the info.that it could possibly be hard on the internals. In all fairness, the 6L inj aren't known for their reliability anyway.

I'm a one tune guy so I'm against it.

Very true they aren't especially if they're neglected it make it that much worse. I could see where the stacks might amplify the lope. Thanks man
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my truck lopes on a decel. not because of the tune. its the cam and nozzles.
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Mink, you are a douche bag and a half... Maybe some people are used to a choppy lope sound when they relate sound to power because of the traditional big block v8 high lift cam. So keep your smart ass immature comments to yourself... If you have a serious comment take contribute to someone's post then say it.. other wise, can it. People like you are what makes threads turn retarded and into a pissing match.. geeez...
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A 6.0 will wet stack without a lope tune... they do it all day long sitting there at idle.


It was my understanding that they WERE hard on the injectors, but I thought I remember reading that ********** and maybe RCD were doing them now but they had a different way to make it lope that wasn't hard on anything. You might be better off just calling one of them up and asking them about it.
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Dont ask dumb ass questions and you wont get smart ass remarks. Do a search like the experienced member you are. Plenty of info on it. All bad. Your post jeremey consisted of nothing useful so can it!! Tell him to add a smoke switch. Go killer with that cummings lope
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I'm sure Eric wouldn't have incorporated the lope into the extreme X tune if he knew it was doing harm.
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I know I've seen a bunch of threads on lope tunes, but I don't think I've ever seen a technical explanation for how the tune creates the lope. That's the smoking gun for why the tune could / will harm injectors, and I believe that's what the OP was asking for.
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You can have a free lope tune any time you want. Simply unplug one UVC harness.

Done and done.

cost... $0.00

And you're not washing down the cylinders because the only 4 firing and working harder than normal, so wet-stacking is a non-issue.
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^^ dont think he wants to go to those extremities, just was wanting a little lope in his new tune. I couldnt imagine anybody wanting to do that must REALLLY want that lope
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I know I've seen a bunch of threads on lope tunes, but I don't think I've ever seen a technical explanation for how the tune creates the lope. That's the smoking gun for why the tune could / will harm injectors, and I believe that's what the OP was asking for.
Exactly. Thats why I was asking. It doesnt seem very healthy for them at all, but like I said, Ive heard both sides so I was hoping more tuning companies would jump in this and put their experience in to whether they are or not detrimental to them or not. And yes, i DID do research about them on the net and some say no, some say yes. Ive only had ONE actual company that does tuning say they wont do it because its hard on them. And like the other fella said about Eric not adding something to the tune that would be harmful. I agree there also, but there was also VERY minimal lope in that tune. Maybe because over those settings might be bad for them? Was looking for facts about the tuning itself..not whether everybody liked them or not. Was supposed to be an informal thread. Not a landslide. Get over yourselves guys.
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Get over ourselves? Why would you want to sound like a mechanical injected diesel engine when you are not one? By a damn 12 valve and have at it.
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Lope tune...cause a douchebag is easier to spot at a traffic light when his PSD sounds like $hit. (on purpose)
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Do yall still not understand what the question was?
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Maybe shoot Eric an email and see what he has to say
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Do yall still not understand what the question was?
I'm kind of wondering the same. He asked a legit question and clarified several times he doesn't want or like lope tunes. Simply wanted a technical explanation of why lope tunes are harmful so if he's asked he has something better than "I read it on the internet."
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I'm kind of wondering the same. He asked a legit question and clarified several times he doesn't want or like lope tunes. Simply wanted a technical explanation of why lope tunes are harmful so if he's asked he has something better than "I read it on the internet."
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I'm kind of wondering the same. He asked a legit question and clarified several times he doesn't want or like lope tunes. Simply wanted a technical explanation of why lope tunes are harmful so if he's asked he has something better than "I read it on the internet."
THIS..I guess some people still cant read
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Get over ourselves? Why would you want to sound like a mechanical injected diesel engine when you are not one? By a damn 12 valve and have at it.
Im not sure i can put this any clearer...I DONT WANT A LOPE TUNE NOR DO I CARE ABOUT THEM. MY buddy has one and was upset it wast loping the way he liked. I told him Ive "heard" bad about lope tunes in reference to the injectors..so YES get over youself and FU*KING READ ..geez guys..this is ridiculous. If you know theyre harmful, then state some FACTS as to why..If theyre not, thenstate some FACTS as to why they arent.
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he does..he loves all my posts. Im beginning to worry about him. He might have been a cheerleader in HS. He ought to be really glad hes in ohio. If he was close, Id be paying his little blonde a** a visit just for being a fuc*ing tool. I dont understand why people do that. Its quite irritating, immature and annoying. I was looking for educated responses on the topic and all i get is BS.
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Maybe shoot Eric an email and see what he has to say
already did..waiting
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Honestly, knowing how the injection system works, I don't see how it could be hard on the injectors....
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This thread is full of win.
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Yea you would think so. Its full of BS because appearently no one can read, nor has any educated answers. "Oh go buy a dodge merrr" lope tunes are gayyy merrr" Not the dang question. If you dont know, and dont CARE to know, then dont bomb the fukn thread with ridiculousness. It was a technical question that im sure some, would like clarification on including myself. So pisss off.
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i have a lope tune on my chip, got it just cuz i had an open position left, dont ever use it much
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Honestly, knowing how the injection system works, I don't see how it could be hard on the injectors....
because of the HEUI style setup? I know 6L injectors are very picky and have low tolerances for anything out of the ordinary. I personally would think that erradic pulses like that would be hard on the tips. Especially the constant smoke too. I dont know though.
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i have a lope tune on my chip, got it just cuz i had an open position left, dont ever use it much
thats what a buddy of mine did with his on his DP. He left the truck here while he was in Afghanistan and i never used it because i was weary of it. Shook the HECK out of that OBS lol.
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thats what a buddy of mine did with his on his DP. He left the truck here while he was in Afghanistan and i never used it because i was weary of it. Shook the HECK out of that OBS lol.
haha, mine doesnt lope good unless pickup is really warmed up, hence why i dont use it much, but doesnt sound bad when i do
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To the OP, I think this thread would have gotten you better responses if it was posted in a technical section and not "in the locker room" perhaps a mod will be nice enough to move it for you and ****** almost all of the reply's
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he does..he loves all my posts. Im beginning to worry about him. He might have been a cheerleader in HS. He ought to be really glad hes in ohio. If he was close, Id be paying his little blonde a** a visit just for being a fuc*ing tool. I dont understand why people do that. Its quite irritating, immature and annoying. I was looking for educated responses on the topic and all i get is BS.
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Tough guy!
In all fairness the OP was asking a technical question, and got smart ass responces. I don't think he was out of line.

Most people think they are soooo hilarious and need to show how smart and witty they are by posting such creative meme's....
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he does..he loves all my posts. Im beginning to worry about him. He might have been a cheerleader in HS. He ought to be really glad hes in ohio. If he was close, Id be paying his little blonde a** a visit just for being a fuc*ing tool. I dont understand why people do that. Its quite irritating, immature and annoying. I was looking for educated responses on the topic and all i get is BS.
Easy keyboard tough guy, your comments and posts are dumb at times - ironically thay have all piled into this week BUT I havnt once made any personal remarks toward you.

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I talked to eric at ********** about this when he built my extreme x tune. He said that the lope is fine and will not hurt the injectors the way he does it. He said that Josh and him have talked about this and the way they do it does not hurt them. I did have him write me two extreme x tunes...one with a lope and one without. The tune with the lope smokes like a freight train at cold start up, but after the truck warms up the lope will nearly go away. I didn't thing the truck would smoke that much with the lope characteristic in the tune. I just wanted to see how it would react with the truck. I don't like it and don't run the lope tune.

Here's the lope tune


Here's the same lope tune after warmup


So even tho most don't like it...it will not harm anything.
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I am unsure how tuning any sort of lope tune could harm the injectors - basically a lope tune commands a ton of fuel - that fuel speeds up the engine - the computer parameters that tell it to maintain the idle pull a bunch of fuel out the RPMs drop - then it commands a bunch of fuel again and just keeps on repeat. There are a few ways to accomplish it, and they all basically end up with a crappy lope idle.

Now I have seen where this can cause sudden increases in cylinder pressure (noticeable knocking when cold) - also can do lots of raw fuel causing the cylinder walls to wet down with diesel fuel and kill the lubrication to the rings, etc...
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Mike@MPD told me straight out at the ********** Dyno day that loping was bad for 6.0L's. There was no confusion, he said it plain as day. His words came out of the ********** truck first starting and loping.
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IDK...according to Eric who tunes the 6L....says otherwise.
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I recall reading somewhere in the 6.4L discussion on another forum that a guy had a lope tune and remote started his 6.4L in the winter and the lope tune caused it to run away. I recall the guy saying he had run the tune for a long while and it was a really cold morning when the truck ran away. I've never had an interest in a lope tune but this definitely put the nail in the coffin on my curiosity.
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was there any proof that the tune cause it and nothin else? Just wondering is all.
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was there any proof that the tune cause it and nothin else? Just wondering is all.
I wouldn't doubt it - fuel dilution is a problem anyway - add in a bunch of raw fuel on a cold motor and you get thinned oil that can easily get sucked up past rings in a worn motor or worse the crankcase gets full and it starts coming out the ccv or pushing through the turbo seals. Not the tune specifically - but a major contributing factor for sure.
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THIS is what i was looking for. Good info here guys. I can see both points of view. More problematic relations with this seem to be with cold starts. Doesnt seem like a good idea to cold start on a lope tune. I dont know about most of you, but my x-street tune starts really hard and revs up upon startup like a big block gasser. I always detune mine in the winter months for that reason. Just that short rev up on start doesnt seem like it can be good for it.

On Second note, with that Eric said strokin6l, Ive noticed his only had a slight lope and he had mentioned that there were settings involved in the tuning that he did not want to surpass. Im sure this is for that reason why Mike at MPD said its not good for them. So ultimately I believe that we could all come to he sense that its better NOT to run a lope tune especially for a DD tune like my buddy is wanting to. Bad seems to outweigh the good here and especially when it comes to cold starts. Right?
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Correct for the 23rd time
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ok smart a** I didnt see anything you contributed to actually answer the question..and maybe you cant count. No one stated whether they were good or bad..only d-bags saying the hated a lope tune and ridiculous comments and a few that actually wanted to know themselves. If you actually KNEW then why the hell didnt you give a detailed explanation as to why since that was the point of my post anyway? Exactly. You probably didnt know either Just like MINK doesnt. He just likes being a douche just like you. Doesnt have an aswer to anything, just likes being a homo in a thread and giving dumb a** comments.
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Ok woah there a second. From what I was informed about a year ago when I had this talk a lope tune was no good for our trucks. It was what I was told and eric back then would not build us one. Since then I'm guessing he has messed with the tables in his tuning and was happy and satisfied enough to release them. Sorry for the bad info. I can't really see a good reason to have one other than it sounds cool

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Ok woah there a second. From what I was informed about a year ago when I had this talk a lope tune was no good for our trucks. It was what I was told and eric back then would not build us one. Since then I'm guessing he has messed with the tables in his tuning and was happy and satisfied enough to release them. Sorry for the bad info. I can't really see a good reason to have one other than it sounds cool

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ok smart a** I didnt see anything you contributed to actually answer the question..and maybe you cant count. No one stated whether they were good or bad..only d-bags saying the hated a lope tune and ridiculous comments and a few that actually wanted to know themselves. If you actually KNEW then why the hell didnt you give a detailed explanation as to why since that was the point of my post anyway? Exactly. You probably didnt know either Just like MINK doesnt. He just likes being a douche just like you. Doesnt have an aswer to anything, just likes being a homo in a thread and giving dumb a** comments.
Lol. Im glad i got you so worked up. No one has technical facts. There all opinions and hypothesis. And by the way. Mikes explanation is the 24th. Boom
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If you want to make your engine run like sh*t and sound pretty much the same without fear of wet-stacking, building up carbon on nozzles or diluting your oil/rings and washing cylinder walls, then seriously..... unplug one uvc.

Why is this not considered a legitimate solution? If you want it on a switch, then run a toggle switch inline with the high side wire for one bank and simply kill it whenever you like.

If the SES light bothers you, then remove that bulb. Although if an engine running like dogsh*t on purpose is a person's thing, then I hardly expect a simple little orange light to offer up much of a problem for them.
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Thank you for number 25 charles!
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Ok, so me and a few others need to know yalls experience, opinions and ulitimately, the truth as to whether lope tunes are hard on the injectors or not. TSD told me they were, Eric at ********** wrote a buddy of mine a lope tune and there was BARELY any lope. sounded like more of an injector issue than a lope and he clearly stated that he didnt want to go beyond those settings and didnt state why, but thats what im guessing. Discuss please


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You have a point. I did mention opinions. And i did ask for them. But I asked in reguards to if they were bad for them or not and a reason why to ultimately put together the truth. NOT an opinion to why you like, or dislike them and if you think theyre gay and all that non-sense.
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Lol. Im glad i got you so worked up. No one has technical facts. There all opinions and hypothesis. And by the way. Mikes explanation is the 24th. Boom
It shouldnt be opinions and hypothesis. There should be an ultimate factor to how they effect the truck. The tuning guys write the programs, and like they said, revised the tuning to where theyre happy with it so there must be a contributing factor of whether it is, or isnt a great thing for them to do that all the time (if thats what one wants)
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You have a point. I did mention opinions. And i did ask for them. But I asked in reguards to if they were bad for them or not and a reason why to ultimately put together the truth. NOT an opinion to why you like, or dislike them and if you think theyre gay and all that non-sense.

I listed ways it's bad for the engine and also provided a way to accomplish the same thing without doing those negatives...

And you deemed that "not an answer".


I don't think your question is answerable.
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Sorry about that. I didnt read it in entirety because of seeing the other stupid comments got me frustrated. Thats good enough for me. Thanks for the explanation. Ill tell him
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You're basically asking the engine to run very cold and fat. The result is going to be a lot of residual fuel on each cycle, which you see leaving the exhaust as smoke.

That leads to oil dilution, gumming rings with soot, building soot and carbon up on the nozzle tips, potentially clogging individual holes, potentially washing the cylinder walls down, removing lubricity from the engine oil that would otherwise be present, in extreme cases of ignition delay, the combustion pressure can spike so high to produce an audible knock that could potentially be harmful to the bearings at low rpm where oil pressure is low anyway.

I'm sure there are more ways it can hurt. Basically, purposefully making an engine run like hell is not the best way to a happy engine.
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Can a mod trim all the BS out of this? There is some good info in here.
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You're basically asking the engine to run very cold and fat. The result is going to be a lot of residual fuel on each cycle, which you see leaving the exhaust as smoke.

That leads to oil dilution, gumming rings with soot, building soot and carbon up on the nozzle tips, potentially clogging individual holes, potentially washing the cylinder walls down, removing lubricity from the engine oil that would otherwise be present, in extreme cases of ignition delay, the combustion pressure can spike so high to produce an audible knock that could potentially be harmful to the bearings at low rpm where oil pressure is low anyway.

I'm sure there are more ways it can hurt. Basically, purposefully making an engine run like hell is not the best way to a happy engine.
EXCELLENT..great info here. thanks alot man. Now i have a better understanding. I didnt think it was too healthy for it to begin with. Just didnt know exactly what in the tuning could be bad especially over time now it makes sense.
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Mink, you are a douche bag and a half... Maybe some people are used to a choppy lope sound when they relate sound to power because of the traditional big block v8 high lift cam. So keep your smart ass immature comments to yourself... If you have a serious comment take contribute to someone's post then say it.. other wise, can it. People like you are what makes threads turn retarded and into a pissing match.. geeez...
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Ok woah there a second. From what I was informed about a year ago when I had this talk a lope tune was no good for our trucks. It was what I was told and eric back then would not build us one. Since then I'm guessing he has messed with the tables in his tuning and was happy and satisfied enough to release them. Sorry for the bad info. I can't really see a good reason to have one other than it sounds cool

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I was just saying at that point, we thought they were bad. Definitely not trying to start anything bud, its all good.

I like lope. I love listening to Brians truck every time i see it. Lope tunes are stupid.
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was there any proof that the tune cause it and nothin else? Just wondering is all.
I don't recall there being any certain evidence that it was the tune. From what Charles just stated it would make sense that the tune was a major contributing factor though. The thread I'm referring to is probably a couple years old, as I recall reading it when I first bought my 6.4L and was reading around about different tuners.

I think the bottom line in all of this is, there is not 100% undeniable evidence that a lope tune will cause major problems. Although there is plenty of solid reasoning and some back stories to support the case against running a lope tune.
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I don't recall there being any certain evidence that it was the tune. From what Charles just stated it would make sense that the tune was a major contributing factor though. The thread I'm referring to is probably a couple years old, as I recall reading it when I first bought my 6.4L and was reading around about different tuners.

I think the bottom line in all of this is, there is not 100% undeniable evidence that a lope tune will cause major problems. Although there is plenty of solid reasoning and some back stories to support the case against running a lope tune.

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Can a mod trim all the BS out of this? There is some good info in here.
Good info for a newb like yourself.. Search,read,observe and learn. To show up here and claim to be a "post whore" without having a firm grasp is absurd.

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Good info for a newb like yourself.. Search,read,observe and learn. To show up here and claim to be a "post whore" without having a firm grasp is absurd.
Yet another pointless post. All he said was there was good info here and that it would be nice if the BS was cleared up.

That ok with you?

Your post is one of those "BS posts" that should be cleared up if this thread were to get cleaned up.

Ok so he likes to post alot in the discussion forums, and has an inside running joke in his sig. Haha and it bothers you that much?!

Any time someone not known or with low posts, posts a thread asking a question it gets shot down just like this one did in the first 3 pages. Because everyone only reads and responds to PART of the OP. So if hes just sapposed to, in your eyes, read and search to learn...how do you expect him or someone else to do so with having to wade through this kind of BS?
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I know right, 10 pages of BS for maybe 3 pages of information. The OP has had to re-explain himself several times. This reminds me of the "how to smoke" threads only the OP isn't "that guy" at all.
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Yet another pointless post. All he said was there was good info here and that it would be nice if the BS was cleared up.

That ok with you?

Your post is one of those "BS posts" that should be cleared up if this thread were to get cleaned up.

Ok so he likes to post alot in the discussion forums, and has an inside running joke in his sig. Haha and it bothers you that much?!

Any time someone not known or with low posts, posts a thread asking a question it gets shot down just like this one did in the first 3 pages. Because everyone only reads and responds to PART of the OP. So if hes just sapposed to, in your eyes, read and search to learn...how do you expect him or someone else to do so with having to wade through this kind of BS?
Exactly^^^.

Chill dude. Its a joke that a couple guys know of.

So what if I post a lot. I have been in this thread and decided to just watch because it was a tech thread. And don't call me a noob, because I'm not. BUT, I'm not even close to an expert either. Did my posts hurt you in any way?? This is just more BS that should be trimmed.

Fuk off. Rant over.
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I know right, 10 pages of BS for maybe 3 pages of information. The OP has had to re-explain himself several times. This reminds me of the "how to smoke" threads only the OP isn't "that guy" at all.
Exacly..and it happens ev erywhere on these damn forums...gets so annoying.
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