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Old 05-17-2018, 08:13 PM
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Ok im completely stumped first i took valve covers off and did injector cups as i had diesel in my coolant so i had my batterys unhooked pos and neg both sides the whole time i work from 4:30am to 5pm everyday and half day on saturdays so it took me about a week to do them well i got them done and put everything back together how it went hooked batterys up and went to start it and it was dead so i put the charger on the battery overnight and all day till i got home from work went to start it again and i get a click then bam its dead the click is coming from the glow plug relay so i unhooked all the wires to the glow plug relay and still wont startbut the part i dont understand is the back two glow plugs were unplugged on the passenger side so what should i do go back in and unhook them but i cant see why that would cause it to not start not even crank starters brand new batterys are a little older but not years old
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Starter fuse maybe
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It wont even start with jumping the starter solenoid i tried itll spark like its going to then nothing
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If the brand new starter has never fired the truck, could be a doa
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See everything started perfectly fine before i did the cups and thats when i noticed the two back glow plugs were unhooked so i plugged them back in and put everything back together how i took it off then bam nothing no start the wait to start comes on i try starting it then it clicks and if i try to start it again it seems the batterys are dead even on the charger
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Got a volt meter ?
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What did you do to get the coolant/oil/fuel from the cylinders?

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With all things being fair and common sense already checked off the list...


I assume liquids has been evacuated from cylinders by removing glow plugs and rotating the crank a few times...

Check your batteries for proper voltage. Battery amperage tester is even better. Make sure they are connected firmly to the posts.

Check fuse to the heater element inside the fuel bowl as this shares power to your pcm

Then go through all your wiring and make sure all sensors are plugged in

Make sure the starter has tight connections for ground and +.

You don’t necessarily need your gps to start the truck.


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I don’t think there’s anything as far sensors that will keep the starter from turning over. Maybe that isn’t the glow plug relay that’s clicking. There’s also a starter solenoid right beside it if you have a super duty. Not as familiar with obs trucks. Dead ass batteries with 200 amp boost would at very minimum turn the starter. Check the bats,use a meter and check the starter side of the solenoid while someone cranks. If you don’t have voltage there solenoid fix. If so check it at starter. And check all the grounds. 99 % of the time I’ve had electrical iaaue on DC it’s a ground.
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Ill check all that guys thank you its a 2000 f350 7.3 no glow plugs were removed the two back ones on pass side were unplugged the caps that go over the glow plugs so i plugged them back in and ever since i did that the front solenoid ontop of the motor clicks i had my wife try and start the truck it clicks then the batterys seem dead everything goes very dim had two different chargers on the batterys and still seemed dead when i go to try and start it
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Well unplug the two gp like it was b4 and see what happens.

Something is not allowing the complete circuit btwn battery and starter. If you take the good batteries and connected them straight to the starter, you’re gonna get some cranking and that’s a guarantee.


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make sure you got the oil and coolant out of the cylinders before trying to start it or you may have bigger problems on your hands...
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make sure you got the oil and coolant out of the cylinders before trying to start it or you may have bigger problems on your hands...
That's what I was asking. But apparently it's better to assume he did. Even though he said he never removed the glowplugs.....

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Pull the glow plugs out and see it’ll turn over


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I got er runnin now thanks for all the help guys really appreciate it was hydrolocked so i sucked everything out of the cylindars on top of the pistons and put it all back together and hand cranked the crank a couple times then got it runnin but now i noticed that it takes a little while to strt it cranks really fast for about 20 seconds then itll start any ideas
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No i didnt remove the glow plugs the site wouldnt let me reload it so i havent been able to see everyones comment
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Just air. It’ll go away
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Ok thanks so much really appreciate it sounds so muh quieter and smoother its just a stock truck with tony wildman tunes on a ts 6 position chip 6637 air filter halo leds smoked taillights gauges 2017 rims and tires 2” spacers
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And that's why I don't assume people "know" what they're doing. Lol
As said above, you'll have to work the air out.

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Yes that would be me “assuming” the OP evacuated the cylinders. I assumed such and at the same time, in the same post, I gave solutions on how to correct it if my assumptions were wrong.

I gave the op the benefit of the doubt but I guess I gave too much credit to start with. Regardless, trucks running.


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Ok thanks so much really appreciate it sounds so muh quieter and smoother its just a stock truck with tony wildman tunes on a ts 6 position chip 6637 air filter halo leds smoked taillights gauges 2017 rims and tires 2” spacers


You should look into a hydra chip.


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The chip he has is fine. Doesn’t sound like he’s really into modding it since pulling injectors to replace cups would have been the perfect time to upgrade them.
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whats the hydra chip tony wildman said i could upgrade it to the hydra chip but i had no idea what it was never had a powerstroke only owned a duramax lb7 with efi and a 98.5 cummins that was stock
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Look it up. Get tunes through email. Worlds better than a ts chip even with stock sticks.


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Ill have to look into it see i dont like the ts chip if i dont hammer the throttle my truck shifts hard on all settings idk why
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Ill have to look into it see i dont like the ts chip if i dont hammer the throttle my truck shifts hard on all settings idk why


Canned tunes.


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Ill have to look into it see i dont like the ts chip if i dont hammer the throttle my truck shifts hard on all settings idk why
If you had a Hydra, you could call Tony and tell him the issues you are having with your tunes. He could email adjust your tunes, email them to you, you could load them on the Hydra chip yourself.
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Not everyone can have it lived tuned. Custom tunes would be your best bet.


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Thats his point. Any file prepared without physically having the truck is a canned tune.
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While i pretty much agree with you, especially at this point and time in the lifespan of the 7.3 and the amount of tunes that experienced tuner have written. They can take one of their tunes, do some custom tweaks to it and email it to you. At that point it is a custom, not a canned tune, you are the only one with that particular tune. However, when the tuner clicks on file and save as, it now becomes a canned tune the next time a customer is having the same issue.

Probably, when you call said tuner and complain about your issues with your tune, he will look at his file and see Tune XXX with softer shifting, hmm, exactly what my customer needs. Then you are getting a canned tune.

Even live tuning starts out with a canned tune, and then custom tweaks are added to make it perfect for your particular truck and driving habits and needs.
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Thats his point. Any file prepared without physically having the truck is a canned tune.


Exactly so... best thing would be custom tunes. At least it’s not 100 cookie cutter files like what hydra has on their server. Tuner can at least change here and there based on knowledge/experience of live tuning.


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While i pretty much agree with you, especially at this point and time in the lifespan of the 7.3 and the amount of tunes that experienced tuner have written. They can take one of their tunes, do some custom tweaks to it and email it to you. At that point it is a custom, not a canned tune, you are the only one with that particular tune. However, when the tuner clicks on file and save as, it now becomes a canned tune the next time a customer is having the same issue.

Probably, when you call said tuner and complain about your issues with your tune, he will look at his file and see Tune XXX with softer shifting, hmm, exactly what my customer needs. Then you are getting a canned tune.

Even live tuning starts out with a canned tune, and then custom tweaks are added to make it perfect for your particular truck and driving habits and needs.


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It's still custom tuning. It just may take some data logging and going back and forth with a tuner to get it dialed in. Also every tuner has different tricks. Live tuning is custon tuning it just allows for the truck to be tuned faster and dialed in on a dyno if they are using one (you dont need a dyno to live tune you just need the correct chip)
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Gauges?

It can run hot EGT with tunes and stock exhaust
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