5R1 MODIFIED DIRECT CLUTCH SOLENOID INFO

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We have been getting many questions and concerns involved in the topic, so we decided to give some info that many have been mis lead upon.

Empire Performance Engineering in conjunction with GoGo Diesel/Direct Injection have worked diligently together to deliver a solid solution. To surpass all the current knock offs and issues of previous concerns that have arose.
The 5R110 TorqShift transmission is one of the most robust transmissions ever offered in a medium duty pickup. It does however have a weakness. The 5R110 transmission is controlled through the use of solenoids to turn on and off gears. A gear is commanded by the computer and a solenoid applies fluid directly to that clutch. In stock power applications the stock solenoid is fine. Outside of that range, the factory piece cannot provide enough fluid to the clutch fast enough to get the clutches together in a short enough time. Long term slipping of the clutch leads to failure. Direct clutch is not only used for 5th gear in the transmission, but it is also used when in reverse as well. All solenoids are modified from brand new parts and are then tested in house on a Solx 2000 Solenoid tester.

Many have got there hands on the original GoGo Solenoid and believe that they been able to by pass the source, bench-marked, relabeled and repackaged it turned it around marked it up and re sold it. Many have even gone to the extreme as still labeling it as a GoGo/Empire Part when it has not been modified to the standards we have set. Recently we where overwhelmed with the mass orders and ran out of inventory for a couple weeks and was approached by a customer to have us install his Solenoid that he purchased off line and was under the assumption that he was purchasing a solenoid of the exact same. Needless to say the customer is not very pleased with the information that we where forced to inform him about.

You will notice in the pictures we have provided of the differences along with the facts that many people out there using this tactic to drive sales there way with no knowledge of the actual functionality of the part or solution. Many will take the Ford # on the base of the solenoid and simply think they have the in source and re label for a discounted price when really all they are purchasing is a knocked off part. This has been going on since the first part of March of 2013.

This is not a bash thread or looking to come down on any one shop in particular just pointing that more is done then meets the eye of a part number, and beware on who and what you are buying in the diesel world for Diesel Performance . com shops open up on an hourly basis.


-Main things to notice by the naked eye to be sure you are getting what you pay for is the coating on solenoid.

-Bottom Fluid passages have been modified.

http://empiredieselperformance.com/...neering-5r110-modified-direct-clutch-solenoid
 

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Here is some more detailed pictures along with an instruction sheet as well.
 

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Solenoid Install Instructions

1. DRAIN TRANSMISSION PAN
2. Remove the 20 transmission pan bolts
3. Remove transmission filter

4. Remove solenoid connector
5. Remove solenoid retainer E clip
6. Pull to remove solenoid
7. Install new solenoid at a 6 o’clock position and then rotate to 7 o’clock position
8. Apply light pressure to install new solenoid (if needed very lightly tap with small deadblow hammer)
9. Reinstall solenoid retaining E clip
10. Reinstall transmission filter
11. Reconnect solenoid connector
12. Clean & reinstall transmission pan with reusable pan gasket
13. Torque down pan rail bolt to 11 ft/lbs and drain plug to 13 ft/lbs
14. Add fluid to recommended level of 7.5 quartz
15. Check level with vehicle running transmission in parked position
 

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are there advantages for a stock truck? I have a dually and i tow a lot (10K) will it help prolong the life of my trans?
 

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It certainly wont hurt Chris. I have one sitting here I need to install still, along with the 08+ 5R110 pan and newer filter.
 

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are there advantages for a stock truck? I have a dually and i tow a lot (10K) will it help prolong the life of my trans?

Yes and Yes

plenty in stock and ready to ship.
 

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I read about something on the org... Lol yeah. Someone said that these solenoids are damaging pumps on the trans due to the increase pressures/volume needed. I don't believe it, but I don't wanna see people spreading yet another internet rumor that will end up gospel sooner or later...
 

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This is nothing new. Plenty of people run these. I would have no worries about running one.

The solenoids themselves are nothing new, no. But other forums seem to think there are different solutions on the market that work the same, I think this was more to just prove that's not the case, they're not all created equal.
 

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Mis-Consumption again, it doesn't increase any pressure nor volume.
Whatever is being commanded by the tune for Line is all that it will ever see since it does not control anything but turning on or off the direct clutch.
Solenoids main purpose is smoothed out what tuners can not control, technical term of which it will hydraulically apply in less time.

No there is no other way to go about same resolution for the hydraulic side and the bang for the buck this option can not be beat.!!

EPC controls line pressure.
And the main pressure pop off on the solenoid pack and in the pump is supposed to be 300psi. A failing transmission pumping metal into the epc will clog the epc and cause pump pressures to skyrocket.
 
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We have been getting many questions and concerns involved in the topic, so we decided to give some info that many have been mis lead upon.

Empire Performance Engineering in conjunction with GoGo Diesel/Direct Injection have worked diligently together to deliver a solid solution. To surpass all the current knock offs and issues of previous concerns that have arose.
The 5R110 TorqShift transmission is one of the most robust transmissions ever offered in a medium duty pickup. It does however have a weakness. The 5R110 transmission is controlled through the use of solenoids to turn on and off gears. A gear is commanded by the computer and a solenoid applies fluid directly to that clutch. In stock power applications the stock solenoid is fine. Outside of that range, the factory piece cannot provide enough fluid to the clutch fast enough to get the clutches together in a short enough time. Long term slipping of the clutch leads to failure. Direct clutch is not only used for 5th gear in the transmission, but it is also used when in reverse as well. All solenoids are modified from brand new parts and are then tested in house on a Solx 2000 Solenoid tester.

Many have got there hands on the original GoGo Solenoid and believe that they been able to by pass the source, bench-marked, relabeled and repackaged it turned it around marked it up and re sold it. Many have even gone to the extreme as still labeling it as a GoGo/Empire Part when it has not been modified to the standards we have set. Recently we where overwhelmed with the mass orders and ran out of inventory for a couple weeks and was approached by a customer to have us install his Solenoid that he purchased off line and was under the assumption that he was purchasing a solenoid of the exact same. Needless to say the customer is not very pleased with the information that we where forced to inform him about.

You will notice in the pictures we have provided of the differences along with the facts that many people out there using this tactic to drive sales there way with no knowledge of the actual functionality of the part or solution. Many will take the Ford # on the base of the solenoid and simply think they have the in source and re label for a discounted price when really all they are purchasing is a knocked off part. This has been going on since the first part of March of 2013.

This is not a bash thread or looking to come down on any one shop in particular just pointing that more is done then meets the eye of a part number, and beware on who and what you are buying in the diesel world for Diesel Performance . com shops open up on an hourly basis.


-Main things to notice by the naked eye to be sure you are getting what you pay for is the coating on solenoid.

-Bottom Fluid passages have been modified.

http://empiredieselperformance.com/...neering-5r110-modified-direct-clutch-solenoid
I am a disabled combat veteran looking to buy one of these. Do you offer any military discounts? Thanks!
 

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