Powerstroke214
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As a few of you may know, my trans has decided to quit on me. Now I'm a novice at these engines, but know even less about how the trans works. All I really know is the shift sequence is 1-2-3-5-6 lol
My Truck: 06 ccsb, studded with 218k mi. Studded, the typical 6.0 things, AP Apex Jr. intake mani, Pmax, 175/75 injectors, traction bars, 35s
Before trans went: Truck has never been down the track, but has seen a few 3/4 throttle pulls to 100. I've attempted to be "gentle" and avoid getting on it hard in OD, as I've heard that added power and forcing it to downshift is hard on them. I've probably forced it to shift from 6L to 4th(I believe Mr. Kovalsky said they go to 4th because 3rd is too low when punching it in 6th) a hand full of times. I've also gotten it sideways quite a few times, probably daily lol. Only issues I've had have been occasional 3-5 flares* and hesitation going into reverse* and after sitting for over a week and the pmax was installed, it banged on a pull up hill, and according to the CTS went into 4th. Wouldn't coast forward under it's own power, as it was in "4th" I don't know if it was the actual 4th gear or 5th). I just drove off, it shifted into "5th"(6th) and all was well. Most it towed was another ccsb 6.0 on a tiny bumper pull, maybe for 15 mi, before that, a ford focus, scaffolding and wire and a few pieces of furniture, and a uHaul. Only the 6.0 was pulled with the current setup, everything else was stock fuel.
The Big Bang: Going to help a friend out, I stopped at my apartment to grab some tools, and I noticed a familiar, faint burning smell, and embarrassingly enough, I thought at the time "maybe that's the trans?" as there were no leaks. However, to keep myself sane, I occasionally ignore small things unless they persist or I'm given a reason to address them(CEL, running funny, something out of spec according to my CTS). We drove to the store then back to his gf's place. I'd been driving pretty tame, no tire spinning, no aggressive acceleration. The lane I was in was beginning to back up with traffic and I was coasting, and realized I needed to be in the other, clear lane. I hopped over casually and went to accelerate to maintain my speed, and BOOM. Truck spun to >4k and stopped pulling. I don't believe it was shifting. Put it in neutral then back into drive and it just free rev'd. I pulled into a parking lot and the burning smell was FAR more pronounced. In drive, it would barely creep forward when the RPMs hit 1700 or so, and was emitting a HORRIBLE screech(I'll post a vid momentarily). I forget the exact code it threw, but I believe it was something like "incorrect gear ratio."
Naturally, I asked for a few opinions on fb as to how ***t I was, and most people said it sounded like the TC took a crap or the input was dead. I sent it to a local diesel shop that doesn't specialize in transmissions(somewhat notable). The owner offered to pull and inspect the trans free of charge. Well after he pulled it, he texted me saying the TC and input looked fine, and a pic of the fluid(will post momentarily), and said that he'd have to send it off to be inspected beyond that.
The local trans shop that built the 5R in the shop owner's 6.4 would rebuild it with a DPC converter, billet input and upgraded clutches for ~3800 plus whatever was broken in the trans, the only caveat: Because he isn't a dealer for them, he won't warranty the trans with the upgraded parts, which I can understand. The shop owner runs one in his 6.4 that has been in the 11s on spray, so I'd say it's fairly stout.
My obvious concern is the lack of a warranty, and as a result I've been thinking about going with a Warren Competition trans. Unfortunately, I did not budget for this, and was toying with doing a trans next fall when I'd have the money, so those suggesting Elite or Midwest, I agree they're excellent quality but I simply can't. Warren seems to be the most cost effective and proven option, at $4k. Twisted seems to be the next best(aka cheapest and proven) option. I'm still waiting to get exact pricing quotes on my options.
And my questions, outside of snapping shafts and trashing a converter, are there any ideas as to what may have gone out? Pump grenaded maybe? CTS reads 195º as the max trans temp, so I wouldn't think that it overheated, but again, there was definitely a burning smell, which is why I initially thought it was probably a toasted converter.
My Truck: 06 ccsb, studded with 218k mi. Studded, the typical 6.0 things, AP Apex Jr. intake mani, Pmax, 175/75 injectors, traction bars, 35s
Before trans went: Truck has never been down the track, but has seen a few 3/4 throttle pulls to 100. I've attempted to be "gentle" and avoid getting on it hard in OD, as I've heard that added power and forcing it to downshift is hard on them. I've probably forced it to shift from 6L to 4th(I believe Mr. Kovalsky said they go to 4th because 3rd is too low when punching it in 6th) a hand full of times. I've also gotten it sideways quite a few times, probably daily lol. Only issues I've had have been occasional 3-5 flares* and hesitation going into reverse* and after sitting for over a week and the pmax was installed, it banged on a pull up hill, and according to the CTS went into 4th. Wouldn't coast forward under it's own power, as it was in "4th" I don't know if it was the actual 4th gear or 5th). I just drove off, it shifted into "5th"(6th) and all was well. Most it towed was another ccsb 6.0 on a tiny bumper pull, maybe for 15 mi, before that, a ford focus, scaffolding and wire and a few pieces of furniture, and a uHaul. Only the 6.0 was pulled with the current setup, everything else was stock fuel.
The Big Bang: Going to help a friend out, I stopped at my apartment to grab some tools, and I noticed a familiar, faint burning smell, and embarrassingly enough, I thought at the time "maybe that's the trans?" as there were no leaks. However, to keep myself sane, I occasionally ignore small things unless they persist or I'm given a reason to address them(CEL, running funny, something out of spec according to my CTS). We drove to the store then back to his gf's place. I'd been driving pretty tame, no tire spinning, no aggressive acceleration. The lane I was in was beginning to back up with traffic and I was coasting, and realized I needed to be in the other, clear lane. I hopped over casually and went to accelerate to maintain my speed, and BOOM. Truck spun to >4k and stopped pulling. I don't believe it was shifting. Put it in neutral then back into drive and it just free rev'd. I pulled into a parking lot and the burning smell was FAR more pronounced. In drive, it would barely creep forward when the RPMs hit 1700 or so, and was emitting a HORRIBLE screech(I'll post a vid momentarily). I forget the exact code it threw, but I believe it was something like "incorrect gear ratio."
Naturally, I asked for a few opinions on fb as to how ***t I was, and most people said it sounded like the TC took a crap or the input was dead. I sent it to a local diesel shop that doesn't specialize in transmissions(somewhat notable). The owner offered to pull and inspect the trans free of charge. Well after he pulled it, he texted me saying the TC and input looked fine, and a pic of the fluid(will post momentarily), and said that he'd have to send it off to be inspected beyond that.
The local trans shop that built the 5R in the shop owner's 6.4 would rebuild it with a DPC converter, billet input and upgraded clutches for ~3800 plus whatever was broken in the trans, the only caveat: Because he isn't a dealer for them, he won't warranty the trans with the upgraded parts, which I can understand. The shop owner runs one in his 6.4 that has been in the 11s on spray, so I'd say it's fairly stout.
My obvious concern is the lack of a warranty, and as a result I've been thinking about going with a Warren Competition trans. Unfortunately, I did not budget for this, and was toying with doing a trans next fall when I'd have the money, so those suggesting Elite or Midwest, I agree they're excellent quality but I simply can't. Warren seems to be the most cost effective and proven option, at $4k. Twisted seems to be the next best(aka cheapest and proven) option. I'm still waiting to get exact pricing quotes on my options.
And my questions, outside of snapping shafts and trashing a converter, are there any ideas as to what may have gone out? Pump grenaded maybe? CTS reads 195º as the max trans temp, so I wouldn't think that it overheated, but again, there was definitely a burning smell, which is why I initially thought it was probably a toasted converter.
