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Message: [QUOTE="smorris, post: 106066, member: 115"] Well, with the addition of water meth, your really asking for trouble. Problem there is, its added through the air intake. Meaning the meth will be in the cylinder before you start the compression stroke. Meaning, it will light off whenever you get enough heat in there. Throw some nitrous in the mix, and if theres enough heat, you get WAYYYY advanced ignition of that mixture. Diesels control the timing by controlling when the fuel is put in. With the introduction of the methanol in the air, its there from the start, and you have no control over when it lights off. And the extra oxygen from the nitrous makes it burn really fast once it does light off. Ever heard of how bad detonation is for an engine? Well, this is more like pre-ignition. Its 100 times worse than detonation. You get cylinder pressure spikes while the piston is coming up, and it tries to shove the piston back down. Very hard on parts. Dont get me wrong, water meth is great stuff. Nitrous is too. If it all works together. And with no more fuel than your gonna have, its still not gonna make 500 hp. Most likely gonna end up with some broke rods. Use the nitrous, without the meth. Do it like Danny said. Start small work your way up, and dont hit it below maybe 2,000 rpm. I use water/ meth, I also use nitrous, but be safe. Its not worth bragging rights if you cant drive it home when ya get done. Also, if you use both together, be careful where you inject. As you know nitrous is very cold when injected. Water has this thing about freezing below 32...lol Dont try to spray them too close together or you might end up with a ice ball going through there. [/QUOTE]