E4OD to 4R100

Chvyrkr · Jul 18, 2011

So, my 02 is goin under the knife...

When it's done I expect that the ATS trans that I installed in my ignorance, will promptly lay down and die.

Other than some VB issues that took 3 months too long to get ATS to fix, it's been an alright trans. It'd be perfect in my wife's truck, which tows a max of 12k once or twice a month. 160/stocks and a few other tweaks on an otherwise stock truck, but I'd like it to tow a little better than the stock trans and "HD" converter will let me get away with.

So, rather than buying two BTS trans' soon, I'd like to just use the ATS in her truck.

But, I don't have the first clue what a guy needs to do to make a 4R100 work in an OBS truck. Obviously, it'll bolt right up. But I'm short a sensor or two aren't I?

Can a PCS be used to tune around the missing sensor?

Any experiences or ideas?

wint · Jul 18, 2011

Im pretty sure its a throw in and go. I know that a good trans builder will do the 4R100 update on a e4od. Id say plug (bolt) and play.

Chvyrkr · Jul 18, 2011

I know it'll bolt right up, I'm wondering about all the other fun stuff.

I know my 02 freaked the hell out on me when the VSS went out, trans would shift to 3rd from a stop at 15mph and lock the converter, then do a rapid fire TC lock/unlock performance until I let off the throttle.

Trying to avoid fun like that.

How much of that is the difference in PCM's though?

wint · Jul 18, 2011

Dont hold my word on this. But i was told that the electronics are the same on the trans its self. Like i said dont hold me to it, im sure some one will chime in with a definate answer.

Strokersace · Jul 18, 2011

Put the 4r100 in and and go. Pretty positive that it has 2 extra sensors that the e4od doesn't have. No problem though cause you can just leave the sensors in their respective places, connect your wires to the other sensors sensors that are there and go. The gear indicator lever on the side of the trans needs to be swapped if I'm not mistaken. Maybe a solenoid pack but not 100% on that.

davey99ps · Jul 18, 2011

Aljay on psn did this swap an from what I remember, he didn't do anything special. I believe he plugged in the sensors he could an left it at that. I hope its that easy, cuz down the road I'd like to switch to a 4r

Powerstroked162 · Jul 18, 2011

I would talk to Brian at BTS. I'm thinking for some reason that the pump in the 4r100 is pw modulated and I know that the e40d pump isn't. One call to Brian and he will tell you for sure.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Jul 18, 2011

Bolt it up and drive it, you will have 2 un-used sensors that simply do not need to be used so just block them off.

If you were to put a e40d into the SD then you'd start having problems!

f-150_xl · Jul 18, 2011

Yup, yup :whs:

Dieselfever · Jul 18, 2011

I was thinking the Solenoid packs had a difference and the PWM was the Tq verter but that is just how they are controlled

-Michael

Tom S · Jul 18, 2011

Powerstroked162 said:
I would talk to Brian at BTS. I'm thinking for some reason that the pump in the 4r100 is pw modulated and I know that the e40d pump isn't. One call to Brian and he will tell you for sure.

I was also thinking the PWM was for lockup.

Chvyrkr · Jul 18, 2011

So, no issue with PWM?

Chvyrkr · Jul 18, 2011

And I hate to call Brian with this, as I'm tryin to swap so I'm only buyin one trans from him.

907DAVE · Jul 18, 2011

Dieselfever said:
I was thinking the Solenoid packs had a difference and the PWM was the Tq verter but that is just how they are controlled

-Michael

Yip, no workie unless you change your pump and solenoid pack. Also, the cooler lines are different.

If it were mine, I would switch cases out.....pretty simple if you dont mind tearing into the trans.

Big Bore · Jul 18, 2011

Dude, you must not like your wife to put an ATS timebomb in her truck. Just sayin.

Chvyrkr · Jul 18, 2011

Big Bore said:
Dude, you must not like your wife to put an ATS timebomb in her truck. Just sayin.

Actually, I made that exact joke when a buddy asked me if I was gonna swap it in there.

I told him "hell no, I bought her that for reliability..."

But, I don't feel like spending another 10k on transmissions.