Best engine/transmission setup for a daily driven/towing 7.3

TyCorr

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That and based on what I've read, the 38r is a 850 cfm turbo while the BASB is rated at 1300 cfm.

Ok well 1400 degrees without a ton of injector IS not right. So regardless, it does NOT add up. And a 38r is not 850 cfm...its right at 1050 in stock form. Curtis ran high altitude passes with a STOCK truck with 38r and 250/200s towing and had egts where you're claiming only the basb is capable.

Im not bashing the basb. Far from it. But there arent any solid numbers out there to PROVE any of this. Why dont one of you guys who have one dyno it? Otherwise its purely conjecture.

Moving forward the 38r has been tested everywhere from 300-600hp towing and doing everything else under the sun. And many have zero issues with egts or spoolup (seriously spoolup on a 38r?) on them.
 

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I just checked my #s and yes a 38r flows 75lb/min or 1047cfm...the billet wheels are said to add 100 cfm and increase spoolup times.
 

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To the OP, if you care yo spend 3k on a basb turbo, its a great turbo but im trying to get some better substantiation than "I have ran both and the 38r stinks(or whatever)". Thoooooousands of people have ran them with glowing results.
 

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Quote me where I said the 38r stinks....
It's the best stock location turbo PERIOD. I stated as much. And you are one to talk...because I have ran both, so I know. I don't need a Dyno to tell me what the real world does. I had glowing results with my 38r....the BASB is just better. It is what it is. You guys have a good day! I'm out!
 

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Dont get bent outta shape. Its the interwebz. You're making a big claim. Expect skeptics.

If we were in the garage id say "damn, that sounds awesome but better than a 38r? Cmon. Cmon".

The other points raised are strictly questions. You think 1400 deg egts are normal towing? Simple question.
 

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I have 160/100's, Billet d66, all supporting mods and I also have to shift out of overdrive on bigger hills to keep below 1300. Auto, 35's and 4.10's. BASB is on its way.
 

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I have 160/100's, Billet d66, all supporting mods and I also have to shift out of overdrive on bigger hills to keep below 1300. Auto, 35's and 4.10's. BASB is on its way.
dont see the issue.. let her breathe man.. nothing wrong with running some rpm! my dually loves it at 3k rpm with the 5er in tow at 900°..... or did anyway...

live life full throttle
 

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38r is overrated in my opinion. EGT's were a problem for me towing until i went to the HFSB. Love that turbo!
 

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Dont get bent outta shape. Its the interwebz. You're making a big claim. Expect skeptics.

If we were in the garage id say "damn, that sounds awesome but better than a 38r? Cmon. Cmon".

The other points raised are strictly questions. You think 1400 deg egts are normal towing? Simple question.

I'd expect egts to climb towing over 10k lbs up a 6% grade for over 8 miles. It would normally climb 1300 while I was rolling but if slower drivers were hanging in the left lane (which they always do) and I really had to lug her, they would climb even more and I wouldn't let her get over 1400. This auto, with 34.5's, and 3.73's. So I end up shifting to third to make everything happy. Same climb same load with the BASB and I never topped 1050 on overdrive. I log tons and tons of miles each week and stay in my gauges. The BASB runs cooler, spools slightly lower, and makes more boost across the board.
My numbers based on the dieselsite d66 ww2.
Running empty at interstate speeds 38r would run about 3-5 psi and 600-650 get on flat ground. BASB will run 5-7 psi stay between 550-600 egt. Empty up standard type hills on the interstate, the 38r would run 7-10 psi and run 750-950 egt. BASB runs 8-12 psi and temps stay between 650-800 egt. Towing my same trailer mentioned above on the interstate on flat ground, 38r runs 7-10psi and 750-1000 egts. BASB runs 8-12 psi and 700-800 egts. Running up standard hills the 38r runs 10-15 psi and 1000-1200 egts. BASB runs 12-17 psi and runs 800-1000 egts.
I run the 38r with the stock wheel, regular ww2 and the d66 ww2. The d66 ww2 was the best performer on my truck which is strictly a daily driver/tow rig. The BASB I have only run with the billet wheel installed by Bell.
My truck is stronger tip to bottom running the BASB and it seems much happier in the 1500-1800 rpm range than the 38r on MY truck.
And FWIW my WG rod was completely tightened down on the 38r.
Here's something else for you. Towing mileage numbers all hand calculated. 38r stock wheel 8.5 mpg, ww2 8.8 mpg, and d66 ww2 9.2 mpg. BASB 10.5 mpg.
Empty, I was about 15 mpg with all 3 wheels on the 38r. BASB I'm just over 16 so far. I use my higher HP tow tune to tow, and my street tune running empty.
 

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