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Clifford_6.4 · Sep 8, 2014

I would contact lead foot Diesel performance they're out of Monroe and do the best work.

Cknox121 · Sep 8, 2014

Cknox121 said:
Have to pull the trans and then I get pull block out. Any write ups on pulling the trans? Where do you access converter bolts from? Starter hole? If so what's the best way to turn motor over?

More dirty engine porn and another crack. Front 2 cylinders had cracks. Water pump has minor cavitation.

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Cknox121 · Sep 8, 2014

Opinions on doing the following while motor is out....

FYI truck has 140k

Oil pump
Oil cooler - deltas were always around 2-5 degrees difference
Lifters
Hpfp? Playing with fire with the reman pumps?
Connecting rods

Also would ATI or Fluid Dampener be a worthy mod? As far as injectors, I would like to get the cleaned up and flow tested. Is Maryland Diesel the only place that does this? If not who would you all recommend?

Thanks for the advise and info

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Cknox121 · Sep 8, 2014

Clifford_6.4 said:
I would contact lead foot Diesel performance they're out of Monroe and do the best work.

Thanks. I mainly want to know who they use as far as a machine shop.

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Clifford_6.4 · Sep 8, 2014

Call them ask for vinny he'll get you in the right direction

powerstroked08 · Sep 8, 2014

I think MPD or midwest can hook you up with flow testing the injectors. I think it would be worth the piece of mind while its apart. And if the pump is holding rail fine then I would leave it alone just because of the reman nightmares that have been happening(ask B585!) I just replaced my rockers since I was doing the pushrods and springs, but I'm glad I did after checking them out! They looked fine but they were sticking on the tips. The truck only has 90k on it and was deleted at 65k with oil changes EVERY 5k or less. Its kinda cheap insurance to do the rockers in my eyes. And I don't know if I missed it but at the minimum get new oem pistons and delip them or go one step further and get HD ones. Oil cooler isn't a bad thing to do while your in there but your deltas were good so meh thats not really required, again thats just an opinion.

Cknox121 · Sep 8, 2014

Clifford_6.4 said:
Call them ask for vinny he'll get you in the right direction

I have talked to him before. They did my buddies truck, the white 6.7 they put the 66 in. Has all white powder coating piping.

powerstroked08 said:
I think MPD or midwest can hook you up with flow testing the injectors. I think it would be worth the piece of mind while its apart. And if the pump is holding rail fine then I would leave it alone just because of the reman nightmares that have been happening(ask B585!) I just replaced my rockers since I was doing the pushrods and springs, but I'm glad I did after checking them out! They looked fine but they were sticking on the tips. The truck only has 90k on it and was deleted at 65k with oil changes EVERY 5k or less. Its kinda cheap insurance to do the rockers in my eyes. And I don't know if I missed it but at the minimum get new oem pistons and delip them or go one step further and get HD ones. Oil cooler isn't a bad thing to do while your in there but your deltas were good so meh thats not really required, again thats just an opinion.

Thanks for the info. My rockers seem okay but I may take them somewhere and get a mechanic to look at them. Did you do lifters? What about oil pump itself?

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powerstroked08 · Sep 8, 2014

No i didn't do lifters because i left the heads on. But with that mileage it really wouldn't be a bad thing to replace them. How many miles before it was deleted?

TY'S08FX4 · Sep 8, 2014

Have you had the heads magnafluxed yet? I bet they find more then 2 cracks with that kind of heat it's been seeing, mine had 2 fine cracks per valve seat but I re used them cause I didn't have another 3 grand laying around for reman heads

RSK · Sep 8, 2014

Cknox121 said:
Opinions on doing the following while motor is out....

FYI truck has 140k

Oil pump
Oil cooler - deltas were always around 2-5 degrees difference
Lifters
Hpfp? Playing with fire with the reman pumps?
Connecting rods

Also would ATI or Fluid Dampener be a worthy mod? As far as injectors, I would like to get the cleaned up and flow tested. Is Maryland Diesel the only place that does this? If not who would you all recommend?

Thanks for the advise and info

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idk keep the stock hpfp, would hate to put a new(reman) in and have it leaking all sorts of fuel everywhere. although from what i read the leaking issues were cold weather related if i'm not mistaken, still though i think if the old hpfp worked flawless run it. I'd probably keep running the old oil pump too, i mean no reason to replace if its fine. I'd deff do lifters and rocker arms. I'd do billet connecting rods if you plan to make 800-1000 or more even.

Cknox121 · Sep 9, 2014

powerstroked08 said:
No i didn't do lifters because i left the heads on. But with that mileage it really wouldn't be a bad thing to replace them. How many miles before it was deleted?

I believe right around 40K before it was deleted. I may do them.

TY'S08FX4 said:
Have you had the heads magnafluxed yet? I bet they find more then 2 cracks with that kind of heat it's been seeing, mine had 2 fine cracks per valve seat but I re used them cause I didn't have another 3 grand laying around for reman heads

Not yet. Trying to find a machine shop that I would trust to do the block and heads.

RSK said:
idk keep the stock hpfp, would hate to put a new(reman) in and have it leaking all sorts of fuel everywhere. although from what i read the leaking issues were cold weather related if i'm not mistaken, still though i think if the old hpfp worked flawless run it. I'd probably keep running the old oil pump too, i mean no reason to replace if its fine. I'd deff do lifters and rocker arms. I'd do billet connecting rods if you plan to make 800-1000 or more even.

No plans past stock fuel and just upgraded atmosphere turbo, maybe a waste gate to keep EBP in check.

Block should be out Wednesday night. Trying to find a buddy with a cherry picker to pull engine.

sootie · Sep 9, 2014

Cknox121 said:
Opinions on doing the following while motor is out....

FYI truck has 140k

Oil pump
Oil cooler - deltas were always around 2-5 degrees difference
Lifters
Hpfp? Playing with fire with the reman pumps?
Connecting rods

Also would ATI or Fluid Dampener be a worthy mod? As far as injectors, I would like to get the cleaned up and flow tested. Is Maryland Diesel the only place that does this? If not who would you all recommend?

Thanks for the advise and info

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i would leave the hpfp and oil pump. have the rods checked for straightness. factory damper is fine unless you plan on turning some big rpm. lifters and rockers are a big yes for how cheap and how accessible they are right now.

Cknox121 · Sep 9, 2014

sootie said:
i would leave the hpfp and oil pump. have the rods checked for straightness. factory damper is fine unless you plan on turning some big rpm. lifters and rockers are a big yes for how cheap and how accessible they are right now.

Might as well do them then.

I got a rough quote for 6K do so the bottom end and heads. Sound about right? I made a thread about it in the general discussion area.

sootie · Sep 9, 2014

i would take all your stuff up to Morgan @ Midwest Diesel. you get straight goods from that guy.

call him for a price...you will likely be pleasantly surprised.

Cknox121 · Sep 9, 2014

sootie said:
i would take all your stuff up to Morgan @ Midwest Diesel. you get straight goods from that guy.

call him for a price...you will likely be pleasantly surprised.

That's a long ride lol. I have been in contact with him.

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sootie · Sep 9, 2014

haha you are the identical distance away from there as i am

B585Ford · Sep 9, 2014

Another vote for keeping the factory HPFP if it was maintaining RP and keeping the oil pump. I would do the oil cooler, lifters, rockers, push rods, springs.

Cknox121 · Sep 10, 2014

B585Ford said:
Another vote for keeping the factory HPFP if it was maintaining RP and keeping the oil pump. I would do the oil cooler, lifters, rockers, push rods, springs.

Thanks.

Question for everyone. Have been thinking about leaving stock springs and push rods... Yes I know, against the norm. But, wouldn't a waste gate prevent large EBP, resulting in less chance to float a valve? Don't the exhaust valves float before the intake valves?

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Cknox121 · Sep 10, 2014

Let's say I do upgrade the springs and push rods, I'm still not doing anything with the higher EBP from the 71mm.

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RSK · Sep 10, 2014

Cknox121 said:
Let's say I do upgrade the springs and push rods, I'm still not doing anything with the higher EBP from the 71mm.

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I'd do hd valve springs/push rods, and stage one camshaft that will help with backpressure...also i'd buy a 72mm turbo instead of a 71 unless you already have the 71, you can buy the camshaft, and hd valve springs amd push rods for the same price as a wastegate kit, probably less!