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[Strokersace]

Have ruined rear axle hub inner and outer bearings and have also replaced many on customers for the same reasons.


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So you used to run ridiculous wheel offset?

 

[STROKERBO]

No, but I did have 20x12 -38 offset which stuck out of the wheel well about 1-1/2"


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[STROKERBO]

That was with 40x15.50x20


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[sootie]

That was with 40x15.50x20


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so you are comparing rolling mass to offset?

 

[STROKERBO]

Where did you get that from. Rolling mass has nothing to do with offset.


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[sootie]

Where did you get that from. Rolling mass has nothing to do with offset.


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exactly. hence why your comparison of running 40" tires doesn't relate to your comments about running big offset.

 

[STROKERBO]

I was talking about the offset of sticking out only 1-1/2 inches versus that ridiculous offset ha has in that ugly mint green turd.


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[Strokersace]

Have ruined rear axle hub inner and outer bearings and have also replaced many on customers for the same reasons.


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So you used to run ridiculous wheel offset?

No, but I did have 20x12 -38 offset which stuck out of the wheel well about 1-1/2"


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So you ruined inner and outer rear hub bearings because of the -38 offset, or because of the the rotational mass hanging out on the end?

How many miles did truck have with this tire/wheels setup? How much weight was pulled regularly with it?

 

[STROKERBO]

1 trip from San Diego to Fla. with 20,000 trailer load with air bags and 1,100 lbs 5 th wheel weight. Then from Fla back to SD AND TO DETROIT


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[STROKERBO]

All with same weight set up.


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[TyCorr]

Have ruined rear axle hub inner and outer bearings and have also replaced many on customers for the same reasons.


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The only time ive seen that combo of damages in a rearend is improper setup and torquing of the fasteners. If you repair someone's rear axle and the hub bolts break off leaving the axle to come sliding out you didnt get bad parts or there is something else wrong, you dont know what the ***k you are doing.

If your theory were true duallys would have severe front and rear axle problems. You assume wheels sticking OUT ruins bearings. Any uneven protrusion past the true centerline of the wheel puts leverage against the same side of the bearing.

The hatred and opinion of the topic paints a clearer picture of your stance than any ability to comprehend the physics of the larger wheels effect on the components.

I did some quick searching and you voice your unwanted bias against wider wheels in every thread even ones specifically catered to them.

As stated, ive ran nothing but wide wheels, 12s and 14s, and it hasnt shortened component service life much if any. My driveshaft was still good at 250k despite being lifted, running big tires, and toeing at twice the the factory hp rating for 220k if the 275k on the vehicle.

Maybe hang up your wrenches versus boame it all on the wheels because you dont like them.

And where have you found -38mm offset on 12 wides since 1999?

 

[TyCorr]

So you ruined inner and outer rear hub bearings because of the -38 offset, or because of the the rotational mass hanging out on the end?

How many miles did truck have with this tire/wheels setup? How much weight was pulled regularly with it?

I did exactly this for 200+k miles and didnt replace a single wheel bearing until 160k. Ive got my 3rd bearing service still in my truck at 275k miles. My truck has been regeared twice but the rear axle was not rebuilt. Ever.

 

[Strokersace]

So you ruined inner and outer rear hub bearings because of the -38 offset, or because of the the rotational mass hanging out on the end?

How many miles did truck have with this tire/wheels setup? How much weight was pulled regularly with it?

1 trip from San Diego to Fla. with 20,000 trailer load with air bags and 1,100 lbs 5 th wheel weight. Then from Fla back to SD AND TO DETROIT


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All with same weight set up.


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You didn't answer my 1st (and most important) question...

Here it is again:
So you ruined inner and outer rear hub bearings because of the -38 offset, or because of the the rotational mass hanging out on the end?

 

[STROKERBO]

Again, rotating mass has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
Plain and simple , it is the stress and pressures on the hubs/ bearings from the wheels sticking out so far past the engineered design. Period!


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[mikeeg02]

No that I have any dog in the fight. But the most likely scenario for trashing the rear bearings is improper torque at the spindle nut. People always forget to torque it, then back it off the appropriate number of clicks depending on new or used bearings. You cannot set them like old standard double nut axle spindle nuts. That either trashes the bearing or it comes loose, either way, usually trashing the spindle and the hubs. Thats what I have seen done. Even on stock wheels and tires.

 

[WHY NOT]

Again, rotating mass has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
Plain and simple , it is the stress and pressures on the hubs/ bearings from the wheels sticking out so far past the engineered design. Period!


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So just going out on a limb here but you really don't like wide wheels on trucks huh? Why don't dually's have a problem. They even run factory spacers on the front.

 

[Strokersace]

Again, rotating mass has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
Plain and simple , it is the stress and pressures on the hubs/ bearings from the wheels sticking out so far past the engineered design. Period!


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So YOU personally had bearing failure because of YOUR -38 offset tires? And know for a proven fact that is why caused it?

 

[STROKERBO]

So the answer to your question about why the Dooley isn't affected by it is that with the inner Julie will you have got so much positive offset and once you put the outer Julie will I'm just literally got a platform that's like a foot and a half to 2 feet wide that literally stabilizes the whole unit and puts no stress on the bearings at all


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[STROKERBO]

Sorry about the speak to text misinterpretation with Dooley and Julie


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[JRLott]

No problem, though it I'd dually as in two, not Dooley as in Thomas the writer or duel as in a fight between two people with deadly weapons to settle infractions of honor.