Help.... please

Jr white · Jan 7, 2017

Tom@BigTimeKustomz said:
Think he's just wondering why you're taking it to the dealer when you just had an aftermarket turbo and pump installed at another shop. Why not take it back to the shop, have the oil and coolant changed, make sure the reservoirs are full, and see if that solves your issue? That would be my first step. You just paid for install of these parts, make sure the shop makes good on it.

Truck is still at shop that done upgrades for me. But after what has happened and comments I read, his knowledge of 6.7 is questionable. Would rather have experienced mechanics assess the situation. I though shop I took it too was experienced in 6.7 but after all this has happened he admitted he only worked on 6.0 and 6.4.

Tom@BigTimeKustomz · Jan 7, 2017

Well that's not good.

Sportchassis06 · Jan 7, 2017

Jr white said:
Truck is still at shop that done upgrades for me. But after what has happened and comments I read, his knowledge of 6.7 is questionable. Would rather have experienced mechanics assess the situation. I though shop I took it too was experienced in 6.7 but after all this has happened he admitted he only worked on 6.0 and 6.4.

Let the shop,that did the install,get it worked out,you don't need to be a 6.7L GURU to change a turbo on a 6.7l!

bpan · Jan 7, 2017

People make mistakes and misunderstand things, it happens. I'm sure he wants to find the solution just as badly as ypu do. Let him take another look. Tell him your thoughts from what you've learned here. He will make it right.

CATDiezel · Jan 7, 2017

What do you suppose Ford is going to do for you...

They are less familiar with a moddedd 6.7L with a budget turbo than the shop that did the work more than likely.

What I'm saying. And not trolling.... is if you can swing it, do a 15 turbo or street max upgrade.

Points been given to do some checking yourself such as top the coolant off and change the oil.

50_shooter · Jan 8, 2017

CATDiezel said:
You castrated your truck by losing the variable vane.

Not true in any way shape or form...

CATDiezel · Jan 8, 2017

50_shooter said:
Not true in any way shape or form...

Very true in every way shape and form....

Maps are maps.

50_shooter · Jan 8, 2017

CATDiezel said:
Very true in every way shape and form....

Maps are maps.

Have you ever actually driven a 6.7 with a small non vgt? Castrated definitely isn't the word that comes to mind... I'm not saying one is better than the other, but telling this guy what he has is crap and he needs to ditch it isn't true or fair. I almost guarantee you that he will be super happy with it when he gets the other problems worked out. It will be a fun ride.

Jr white · Jan 8, 2017

I will keep turbo I have. Dropping another 3k-4k for streetmax is not gonna happen just over one person's opinion. Thanks for advice though.

doo dah · Jan 8, 2017

Jr white said:
I will keep turbo I have. Dropping another 3k-4k for streetmax is not gonna happen just over one person's opinion. Thanks for advice though.

I had stock VGT then went with 64mm non VGT and will tell you there is a difference but once you get the right tuning and get used to driving a non VGT it isn't that bad. I struggled with bad tuning for a while and once we got it figured out all is good. Mine spools fairly quick for what it is. Would I be happier with a VGT? Maybe but I do like the power once the turbo does build boost, almost like nitrous. I'll go from 8 to 34 lbs boost in just a couple seconds, which a VGT may do as well but as I add fuel the lower drive pressure of the non VGT may be better for daily driving and towing. I'm by no means an expert, just giving you my experience as one that has had both. I wish you luck on getting things fixed and hope that things get buttoned up, this is the best PSD I have ever owned.

Jr white · Jan 8, 2017

doo dah said:
I had stock VGT then went with 64mm non VGT and will tell you there is a difference but once you get the right tuning and get used to driving a non VGT it isn't that bad. I struggled with bad tuning for a while and once we got it figured out all is good. Mine spools fairly quick for what it is. Would I be happier with a VGT? Maybe but I do like the power once the turbo does build boost, almost like nitrous. I'll go from 8 to 34 lbs boost in just a couple seconds, which a VGT may do as well but as I add fuel the lower drive pressure of the non VGT may be better for daily driving and towing. I'm by no means an expert, just giving you my experience as one that has had both. I wish you luck on getting things fixed and hope that things get buttoned up, this is the best PSD I have ever owned.

Thanks.

bigrpowr · Jan 8, 2017

doo dah said:
I had stock VGT then went with 64mm non VGT and will tell you there is a difference but once you get the right tuning and get used to driving a non VGT it isn't that bad. I struggled with bad tuning for a while and once we got it figured out all is good. Mine spools fairly quick for what it is. Would I be happier with a VGT? Maybe but I do like the power once the turbo does build boost, almost like nitrous. I'll go from 8 to 34 lbs boost in just a couple seconds, which a VGT may do as well but as I add fuel the lower drive pressure of the non VGT may be better for daily driving and towing. I'm by no means an expert, just giving you my experience as one that has had both. I wish you luck on getting things fixed and hope that things get buttoned up, this is the best PSD I have ever owned.

i was shocked at how well the 363 drove with a cast wheel. i towed 10k or so with it and had no complaints. just took a little bit of a learning curve .

CATDiezel · Jan 9, 2017

98% of people cruise in their 6.7L.

VGT. lol

06-sixoh · Jan 10, 2017

Happy to be part of the 2%.
LOL

OP, Let us know what you come up with.

Jomax · Jan 10, 2017

50_shooter said:
Have you ever actually driven a 6.7 with a small non vgt? Castrated definitely isn't the word that comes to mind... I'm not saying one is better than the other, but telling this guy what he has is crap and he needs to ditch it isn't true or fair. I almost guarantee you that he will be super happy with it when he gets the other problems worked out. It will be a fun ride.

I have, they loose their low end grunt. And it was a 64mm bell turbo to boot. I'll take VGT... or compounds.

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50_shooter · Jan 13, 2017

Well if your truck is making 1380 TQ with a stock 15 turbo and stock fuel it's a unicorn and has way more low end grunt than 99% of all 6.7's. So it might not be a fair comparison, lol

CATDiezel · Jan 13, 2017

50_shooter said:
Well if your truck is making 1380 TQ with a stock 15 turbo and stock fuel it's a unicorn and has way more low end grunt than 99% of all 6.7's. So it might not be a fair comparison, lol

Great comparison for people that drive WOT non-stop!!

Look, I'm not bashing a non-vgt... but that's not practical for people cruising and using their trucks as normal civilians!!

Yes a very select few know how to "drive around" a strait vane.

Many people have no idea what there getting into with a "budget non vgt" especially with the need of a true custom live tuning"

Towing with one is great if you tow alot or full time... due to the load. That's why many don't complain when they say "tows great"

bigrpowr · Jan 13, 2017

CATDiezel said:
Great comparison for people that drive WOT non-stop!!

Look, I'm not bashing a non-vgt... but that's not practical for people cruising and using their trucks as normal civilians!!

Yes a very select few know how to "drive around" a strait vane.

Many people have no idea what there getting into with a "budget non vgt" especially with the need of a true custom live tuning"

Towing with one is great if you tow alot or full time... due to the load. That's why many don't complain when they say "tows great"

i sell alot of both vgt and non vgt . i have owned and driven both. i know for my 13 , on stock fuel , i was shocked at how well mine drove with the box 63 in the MPD kit. in the higher tunes the smoke output was a good bit more at low rpm with the foot down, but average driving just wasn't bad at all. i towed around 10k a few times and it was literally nothing different than the stock turbo cept the noise , just had to use my head when getting on it at low speed and rpm to not make a mess of smoke. the smoke map is crazy on the 6.7 in general , so unless the tuner really goes after disabling that map , it can be low to no smoke, at least with an 11-14 pump, probably can be worse with a 15-16 . with that setup i ran the base h&s cal2 file. no mcc .

they each have their place for sure , but the right non-vgt for your needs can me very suitable. then again , hard to beat a street max for the exact same needs .

50_shooter · Jan 13, 2017

I think something that is very important, for my setup, is being able to shift on the fly. I would hate it if I had to reflash to change fueling. Towing would be a smokey, laggy, mf on the bigger tunes. That's something I just thought about. Even with the 64 I had I always turned it down to tow.

Jr white · Jan 16, 2017

Update.... turbo bolts where loose not torqued to specs, had put silicone on turbo gasket, was leaking, coolant system would not hold pressure. Drained 9 gallons of oil and coolant out of oil pan, was the consistency of thick cake batter, had put wrong coolant in, used yellow instead of orange. Put new gasket under turbo and tightened bolts to spec, coolant system holding pressure now, so hopefully that was problem. Now just have to change oil few time to make sure all coolant out of oil system and hopefully no further damage was done.

Thank you all for your comments.