My Little Build

pistolpete837 · Feb 4, 2012

My headgaskets were blown, I figure I should add a few more things while we were in there.

New Mods:
arp studs
stock gaskets
precision wastegate
batmo wheel
rudy's ported rails
rudy's stage 1 valve springs
mbrp ic pipe
dirty diesel intake horn
mbrp 5" exhaust
gooseneck hitch

My buddies shop does primarily dodges, so he doesn't have a lift, but he does have fork lifts :rockon:. At last years rudy's dyno day I may 556/1060 with a mini maxx, intake, dpf/doc delete, airdog. How much do you think I will make know?

stroker96 · Feb 4, 2012

Nice! Good luck with everything!!

O2ShootTheJ · Feb 5, 2012

no egr delete?'

I would say you're looking at a 20-30 hp gain

Jeff@Spartan · Feb 5, 2012

580-590 with stock transmission.

pistolpete837 · Feb 5, 2012

O2ShootTheJ said:
no egr delete?'

I would say you're looking at a 20-30 hp gain

It had egr deleted already. We did that a few weeks before hoping that was the reason it was puking, it was not :cursing:

superdutyfarmer · Feb 5, 2012

Looks good, I did the same, deleted the egr hoping that was the puking issue, same shoes as you. I ended up tearing it down as well. I was all for the two forklifts but my cousin who helped me didn't want to so we ended up borrowing a lift and then bringing the chassis back to his shop where I tore it down just as you are doing.

Spatel23 · Feb 5, 2012

Why the gate?

If you dont plan on running nitrous, Id ditch it.
Maybe add chromoly pushrods and/or a ported intake manifold

Id definitely ditch the dirty diesel intake horn/MBRP ic pipe and go with the No Limit CAC/intake pipe.

In any case, good luck with the build.

Jeff@Spartan · Feb 5, 2012

Spatel23 said:
Why the gate?

If you dont plan on running nitrous, Id ditch it.
Maybe add chromoly pushrods and/or a ported intake manifold

Id definitely ditch the dirty diesel intake horn/MBRP ic pipe and go with the No Limit CAC/intake pipe.

In any case, good luck with the build.

This.

Erikclaw · Feb 6, 2012

No limit pipe is the ticket. Way better flow and overall design.

Scottbigred · Feb 6, 2012

I agree with them ^^ I wouldn't feel comfortable running aftermarket springs on stock pushrods. They are cheap insurance anyway.

pistolpete837 · Feb 6, 2012

Thanks for advice, i looked at the no limits, its alittle more than i can spend right now

SEABEE08FX4 · Feb 6, 2012

Erikclaw said:
No limit pipe is the ticket. Way better flow and overall design.

Is there any thing to back this up, dyno testing, flow charts and so on. I'm not saying it is or isn't nor calling the product out, just legitimately wondering if there was any testing done to show any gains.

Jeff@Spartan · Feb 6, 2012

SEABEE08FX4 said:
Is there any thing to back this up, dyno testing, flow charts and so on. I'm not saying it is or isn't nor calling the product out, just legitimately wondering if there was any testing done to show any gains.

Looking at the design, it's obvious that both sides of the intake manifold are getting flow distributed pretty equally. The No Limit elbow dumps air straight down into the manifold. The Flo-Pro/Dirty Diesel elbow does not. The flow of that elbow should supply plenty to the drivers side, but not nearly as much to the passenger side.

SEABEE08FX4 · Feb 6, 2012

SPARTAN said:
Looking at the design, it's obvious that both sides of the intake manifold are getting flow distributed pretty equally. The No Limit elbow dumps air straight down into the manifold. The Flo-Pro/Dirty Diesel elbow does not. The flow of that elbow should supply plenty to the drivers side, but not nearly as much to the passenger side.

Well that's kinda what I'm getting at, I mean in theory that sounds right but you have to remember not only is the air under pressure but the cylinders are also sucking in that air every time the intake valves open on either side. So other than looks I'm just curious if there is any difference in EGT, power and so on. I'm just curious if there has been any real world testing done to compare the two.

MINK · Feb 6, 2012

SEABEE08FX4 said:
Is there any thing to back this up, dyno testing, flow charts and so on. I'm not saying it is or isn't nor calling the product out, just legitimately wondering if there was any testing done to show any gains.

I agree. Product looks great and makes sense but what are the factual gains?

powerstrokin15 · Feb 6, 2012

I agree with Eric and josh. not bashing it-as I'll probably end up buying the no limit stuff. just curiosity.

01PSD · Feb 6, 2012

Back to the RCD manifold discussion we go... :lookaround: LOL
Would the gains even be noticeable though? How would you test it?

SEABEE08FX4 · Feb 6, 2012

01PSD said:
Back to the RCD manifold discussion we go... :lookaround: LOL
Would the gains even be noticeable though? How would you test it?

Dyno and track would be the easiest way, other than that I guess you can put each on a flow bench but even then the dyno and track will tell the real story.

Jeff@Spartan · Feb 6, 2012

SEABEE08FX4 said:
Dyno and track would be the easiest way, other than that I guess you can put each on a flow bench but even then the dyno and track will tell the real story.

Too many variables at the track. Using an indoor dyno with a controlled atmosphere would probably be the only way to determine which setup truly flows more.

SEABEE08FX4 · Feb 6, 2012

SPARTAN said:
Too many variables at the track. Using an indoor dyno with a controlled atmosphere would probably be the only way to determine which setup truly flows more.

There are variables but you could do a 5 run average with each set up and get a fairly accurate result.