Christof13T
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so i have been reading... and reading... and reading more on the subject for a solid year now...
i have heard horror stories...
and reports of fantastic results from running waste oils in these trucks.
for the most part... it seems as though the majority of failures (as a result of running waste fuels) typically result from improper filtration at home base...
or improper heating techniques.
some folks have reported catastrophic failures due to attempts at mixing dissimilar oils in the vehicle fuel system...
with what little i have learned from all the reading, and conversations i have had with fellow alternative fuel enthusiasts, i have decided to run waste fuels in my truck. i will be running a 2 tank system onboard. the factory tank will remain a d2/b100 only reservoir. my 91 gal RDS in the bed will serve as my main tank for waste oils.
my intention for the truck is the tried and true TIH method of heating my oil. i will probably also end up using a heat exchanger plate of some sort in the engine bay.
i want to eliminate as many ecv's as i can from the typical wvo/wmo setup.
by using check valves, and seperate fuel pumps for each fuel system... i hope to switch from d2, to wmo/wvo by killing power to one pump... and simply diverting to the other. thus dropping pressure on the d2 side... allowing the oil to enter the system... with cv's at the T where the two systems meet... there is no chance of cross contamination. simple... effective... almost automatic switching.
for the return... my intention is to yet again eliminate some issues...
instead of switching my return from one tank to the other...
im going to eliminate the return to the wmo/wvo tank... and T it into the wmo/wvo pump feed from the tank. should keep the oil hotter and save heat by not dumping it all back into the oil tank.
so thats a little bit about the setup intended for Motorbug...
this is the progress on my base station so far:
foundation
measuring out some plumbing, and getting a measurement for 2nd level support height.
2nd level supports cut and ready to go in place.
2nd level in place.
Plumbing it in. if physics isnt your strong suit... the idea here is to fill this system with raw waste oil at the big pipe at the very bottom. when the 1st barrel is full... as more oil is added... pressure will raise oil into the 2nd barrel. the idea is... water, and most solid contaminants will stay in the lower portion of the 1st barrel.. and good oil will rise to the top barrel.
Another view.
View with the fill tube.
i attempted to try drafting oil from a verticle barrel with various pumps i had laying around... all proved to be utter failures.
an aquarium pump:
a bit larger clear water pump:
a 100 psi diaphragm pump:
and finally i tried the tim the tool man taylor method...
a power steering pump and a 1 1/2hp motor.
i thought the power steering pump was the most promising... but it couldnt provide enough suction on the reservoir side to lift the oil out of the barrel...
i was only in about 20 gallons in a 55 gal plastic drum.
the intent from this point is to have the output from the 2 tier system to flow thru a whole home water type filter and into a reserve tank ready for final filtration. with this method, gravity will do most of the actual work for me. so i should save a little on energy costs running pumps over some people who utilize powered filtration methods only. granted... my method will be more time consuming... but at the rate i currently burn fuel... it well beyond balances out so i stay leagues ahead in fuel costs.
I will update this thread as progress continues.
i have heard horror stories...
and reports of fantastic results from running waste oils in these trucks.
for the most part... it seems as though the majority of failures (as a result of running waste fuels) typically result from improper filtration at home base...
or improper heating techniques.
some folks have reported catastrophic failures due to attempts at mixing dissimilar oils in the vehicle fuel system...
with what little i have learned from all the reading, and conversations i have had with fellow alternative fuel enthusiasts, i have decided to run waste fuels in my truck. i will be running a 2 tank system onboard. the factory tank will remain a d2/b100 only reservoir. my 91 gal RDS in the bed will serve as my main tank for waste oils.
my intention for the truck is the tried and true TIH method of heating my oil. i will probably also end up using a heat exchanger plate of some sort in the engine bay.
i want to eliminate as many ecv's as i can from the typical wvo/wmo setup.
by using check valves, and seperate fuel pumps for each fuel system... i hope to switch from d2, to wmo/wvo by killing power to one pump... and simply diverting to the other. thus dropping pressure on the d2 side... allowing the oil to enter the system... with cv's at the T where the two systems meet... there is no chance of cross contamination. simple... effective... almost automatic switching.
for the return... my intention is to yet again eliminate some issues...
instead of switching my return from one tank to the other...
im going to eliminate the return to the wmo/wvo tank... and T it into the wmo/wvo pump feed from the tank. should keep the oil hotter and save heat by not dumping it all back into the oil tank.
so thats a little bit about the setup intended for Motorbug...
this is the progress on my base station so far:
foundation
measuring out some plumbing, and getting a measurement for 2nd level support height.
2nd level supports cut and ready to go in place.
2nd level in place.
Plumbing it in. if physics isnt your strong suit... the idea here is to fill this system with raw waste oil at the big pipe at the very bottom. when the 1st barrel is full... as more oil is added... pressure will raise oil into the 2nd barrel. the idea is... water, and most solid contaminants will stay in the lower portion of the 1st barrel.. and good oil will rise to the top barrel.
Another view.
View with the fill tube.
i attempted to try drafting oil from a verticle barrel with various pumps i had laying around... all proved to be utter failures.
an aquarium pump:
a bit larger clear water pump:
a 100 psi diaphragm pump:
and finally i tried the tim the tool man taylor method...
a power steering pump and a 1 1/2hp motor.
i thought the power steering pump was the most promising... but it couldnt provide enough suction on the reservoir side to lift the oil out of the barrel...
i was only in about 20 gallons in a 55 gal plastic drum.
the intent from this point is to have the output from the 2 tier system to flow thru a whole home water type filter and into a reserve tank ready for final filtration. with this method, gravity will do most of the actual work for me. so i should save a little on energy costs running pumps over some people who utilize powered filtration methods only. granted... my method will be more time consuming... but at the rate i currently burn fuel... it well beyond balances out so i stay leagues ahead in fuel costs.
I will update this thread as progress continues.