New truck dilema, Ram vs. Ford

ChattyCathy · Jun 16, 2014

I have owned late models in the ford and dodge. There is nothing wrong with the dodge it is a nice truck. There are parts I like more about the dodge. I do believe the Ford is a better truck overall.

Buy the one you want!

superpsd · Jun 17, 2014

So far it seems like Ford has been getting the issues worked out on the 6.7 as was stated earlier it sounds like a majority of the problems were the 2011-12. Around the northwest a huge amount of the new service trucks are the superduty trucks with the 6.7

International-V8Diesel · Jun 17, 2014

Dont the 450's and 550's have a 6.7 with weak valves or something to that extent?

HOOV3R · Jun 17, 2014

International-V8Diesel said:
Dont the 450's and 550's have a 6.7 with weak valves or something to that extent?

That was a 2011 issue.

Big-Foot · Jun 17, 2014

I looked very hard at all three and ended up choosing the Ford primarily based on owners reviews.
I ended up eliminating the Dodge first due to suspension history and their history for body related issues (rust primarily).. Although I must say that the interior of the Dodge was very nice and luxurious.
GM was the next in line and ran a close second to the Ford which won. The one thing the GM had going for it in spades was the Allison transmission which has enjoyed a good run. The other is the longevity of the Duramax platform. I did feel, however, that GM was turning up the boost to the older platform to the point where it may be performing at or close to its original design limitations..
I ended up paying about a grand more for the Ford than the GM would have been and about 1500 more than a similarly equipped Dodge.
I still have a while to go before my new truck is delivered.

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jun 17, 2014

Since 2003 no stock truck has ever came better equipped with an automatic trans than fords. The 5r was good and the 6r is by far the best made auto to date ever put in a pickup. Way more power and longevity than any Allison could ever dream of.

CATDiezel · Jun 17, 2014

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto said:
Since 2003 no stock truck has ever came better equipped with an automatic trans than fords. The 5r was good and the 6r is by far the best made auto to date ever put in a pickup. Way more power and longevity than any Allison could ever dream of.

Agreed. An Allison 6 speed will barely handle 475hp. I know this personally from two of my previous lbz's. A clean 475hp at that.

Big-Foot · Jun 17, 2014

CATDiezel said:
Agreed. An Allison 6 speed will barely handle 475hp. I know this personally from two of my previous lbz's. A clean 475hp at that.

How many Duramax diesels came with more than 400 HP?

My point was that the transmissions seemed to hold up well. I mean no disrespect to Ford's automatics (hell I bought one didn't I?)...

I had an Allison MD in my 26k# motorhome and it performed flawlessly.. Actually it was the ONLY part of the coach that never eff'ed up...

CATDiezel · Jun 17, 2014

Big-Foot said:
How many Duramax diesels came with more than 400 HP?

My point was that the transmissions seemed to hold up well. I mean no disrespect to Ford's automatics (hell I bought one didn't I?)...

I had an Allison MD in my 26k# motorhome and it performed flawlessly.. Actually it was the ONLY part of the coach that never eff'ed up...

I was speaking in tuning terms obviously.... A stock A6 does fine.

The 5r140 is a monster tho....

Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Jun 17, 2014

I'm not going to lie the newer(2011's+) rams have nice interiors but they are cheaply made...............

bigrpowr · Jun 18, 2014

2 things to add.

1. there are more diesel superduty's sold than dodge , gmc and chevy combined.
2. the 6.7 power stroke has less warranty claims than the 7.3 in the same number of year compared.

my belief , all the new trucks are nice. gm is at the end of their rope with the 6.6 and cannot keep up anymore, and the quality of the truck , as well as looks has fallen off. cant hate because the dmax platform has had a good run since they fixed the injectors on the LLY and up. but the truck, after 50,000 miles is a squeaky, rattling pile of plastic crap.

ram (since it was bought by the Italians and dumped the dodge name) , has gotten a lot better. but serious issues have continued with the ram part like wiring and electrical issues, but the cummins 6.7 is pretty good. the epa has bitten them pretty good as well.

ford seems to be taking a pretty good leap since the 6.0 .

Jesse_01 · Jun 18, 2014

Only thing nice about the dodge is the megacab. So much room.

Your wife would probably like the seats of a new chev. Their new Denali hd is pretty sweet to just take for a spin.

Personally besides a new ford I would look next at a new gmc.

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Mahdeys · Jun 18, 2014

Jesse_01 said:
Only thing nice about the dodge is the megacab. So much room.

Your wife would probably like the seats of a new chev. Their new Denali hd is pretty sweet to just take for a spin.

Personally besides a new ford I would look next at a new gmc.

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I refuse to own a GM product. Bottom of the quality and poor electronics bin in my opinion.

The dealership brought in the truck I wanted to buy. 2015 CCLB lariat with the ultimate package. SHe was gorgeous. It had 86 miles from getting driven from another dealer and I took it for a drive with the salesman and I was ready to buy it. On the way back to the dealership (20 mile loop) the check engine light came on and it went into some sort of limp mode. DEF level was fine and it had a full tank of diesel.

Dealer is looking at getting in another truck.

Dealer said tech hooked up IDS and it had a bunch of U codes and some emissions codes.

I won't lie at all I am now very nervous even though I know it's a machine and things happen. I'm waiting on a call from the dealership on what they find and when they can have another truck.

dseitler · Jun 18, 2014

I don't care which on you buy. Just make sure it has A/C Seats. Best thing right after a Diesel. LOL

littleredstroker · Jun 18, 2014

CATDiezel said:
I see a lot of false theories in this thread. LOL..

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Beauty... Ford.
Work.... Dodge.

I owned a tuned deleted 09.5 3500 head studded it day 10. Used it like a Work truck for 75,000 trouble free miles. It did not rattle shake bang let me down for 3 yrs. Used in the oil field to boot. Nothing easy on the truck with that.

Let me take you to about 3 CAT dealerships that have told ford goodbye and purchased all dodges. And rightfully so.... The oilfield industry HATES Ford right now. Mainly all cab chassis.

I can show you how many f550 's with 6.7L that have had multiple engines from ONE dealership. HOLT Cat to name one.

Riggs Cat did something smart. They tried two I think it was and laughed and bought all dodge 5500's.

That's funny.. company I work for is swapping to fords now.. 6 out of 10 hot shot drivers drive dodge. most of them are 13-14s, and almost all of them have had head gaskets pop. . 50k miles on a truck when the HG pop.. nah I don't think so . theres a guy with a 6.7 ford that has just under 400k miles.. they shut if off long enough to change oil and other than that the thing was packing down pavement.

my point is every motor will have issues, its just what happens when you cram that much crap in a box. personaly, I have not seen new dodges come in with loose headlights because they rattled apart, I hear about endless transmission issues, I have seen that they are cheaply made and I would just never buy one. that's me.

Jesse_01 · Jun 18, 2014

Mahdeys said:
I refuse to own a GM product. Bottom of the quality and poor electronics bin in my opinion.

The dealership brought in the truck I wanted to buy. 2015 CCLB lariat with the ultimate package. SHe was gorgeous. It had 86 miles from getting driven from another dealer and I took it for a drive with the salesman and I was ready to buy it. On the way back to the dealership (20 mile loop) the check engine light came on and it went into some sort of limp mode. DEF level was fine and it had a full tank of diesel. Dealer is looking at getting in another truck.

Dealer said tech hooked up IDS and it had a bunch of U codes and some emissions codes.

I won't lie at all I am now very nervous even though I know it's a machine and things happen. I'm waiting on a call from the dealership on what they find and when they can have another truck.