Oil temps
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I just changed the oil to Rotella 5/40 full syn. before this trip,hoping that would make ANY difference....it didn't.I'm not as much worried about the oil breaking down as much as the truck melting down.It does have 35's,but I think it is stock as far as a lift.262* wouldn't make you nervous?
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200 205 is pretty "normal" for a truck with stock gear train ratios. Mess that up and the engine will have to work a bit harder.
There are way to many factors here to say where one is normal.
Ambient air temp, humidity, wind, barametric psi, sunlight, cloudy.... even a full moon... lol....
Somewhere north of 200*F is extremely normal and actually at the base of normal. 215 just would be of any concern.
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Can you elaborate more details. Engine mods. Lift. You said in your first post lift and big tires. So I could only assume.
Air temp. Humidity. Grade of accention pass your climbing. Gear ratio of truck. Speed you are driving when climbing the pass. What type of trailer and loaded weight. Elevation. What gear are you towing in while climbing the pass. (All these contribute to the equation)
I know you mentioned elevation and truthfully that is a factor for sure. Dirty air filter and lack of oxygen and air density can contribute to this.
Alot of factors to consider and your NOT the only one that sees high EOT.
It is possible you have a clogging cooler.
I get what your saying, CAT. Guess Ford needs to go back to idiot lights and idiot gauges. Then we'd be blissfully ignorant and wouldn't have to have this conversation every 3 weeks. LOL. I'd wonder WTF if mine suddenly started running 215 around town. Might not even notice that on one of the old gauges marked C Normal H.
The only reason I even know what mine runs is I try to keep an eye on it warming up so I don't hammer on it too hard until it gets to 180. Sometimes I forget to flip back.
The only reason I even know what mine runs is I try to keep an eye on it warming up so I don't hammer on it too hard until it gets to 180. Sometimes I forget to flip back.
So,dude at the dealership assumed "lift/big tires".I am running 35's,but I don't think it's lifted,just a leveling kit up front.
No engine mods that I am aware of....I'm pretty sure its stock.I cleaned the air filter,when I changed to syn. oil before the trip.Just knocked the dust off,not replace...wasn't bad.
Temperature was around 80*,low humidity-we're in the high desert,and by high desert,I'm at 5600 ft.,and the summit is at 5940 ft.
No idea what the grade is on that pass,but it is a pretty good pull.Also not sure the gearing of the truck-2011 Lariat F350 FX4.Build date is 6/10.
Was only doing the speed limit-75-dropped her to 70 as the temps climbed.
26' bumper pull Wildcat Maxx,loaded,maybe 7-7200 lbs.Running with tow/haul on.
Now,with all this said,something similar to this happened the first time I pulled the trailer the same route....only it was losing power as I tried to pass traffic on this pass.I had no idea what was going on,and the wife was going through the owners manual trying to find out WTF was going on.Since then I have learned "a little" about de fueling.I think that may have been what it was doing,but I was ignorant to the oil temps problems the first time,and wasn't monitoring it.Thought it may have been a fuel issue,and shortly after,changed the filters.
As well I just recently ordered an oil cooler,and am going to replace that,just to eliminate that from the equation.My main concern is that it seems REALLY hot,but if enough people could tell me it's "normal", then I'll just drive it and not worry.
I am wanting to at minimum put a SCT X4 tuner on it til I ******,but don't want to exacerbate the problem.Thoughts on that?
Not too lifted at all. I think 262 is a bit too hot. For what you were towing.
Are all the radiators clean? Not full of dirt etc?
In 110 degree weather climbing a 6% grade my truck hit 252. Stock motor but with a 2.5in lift and 37s. Foot to the floor towing a 15k toyhauler.
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Are all the radiators clean? Not full of dirt etc?
In 110 degree weather climbing a 6% grade my truck hit 252. Stock motor but with a 2.5in lift and 37s. Foot to the floor towing a 15k toyhauler.
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As far as I can tell they look clean.Dude does have some sort of mesh grill insert/cover thing in the grill.Maybe I'll pull that and see if it changes.Although the mech. that looked at it said the coolant temp was OK.even though there was about 25* difference from the oil temp.
As an aside,the coolant temp "needle" has only moved past center one time that I noticed,when I was returning home from this trip.As soon as I got back on flat ground,it went back to center.Do these have a digital readout for coolant anywhere on the gauges?I couldn't find one.
Another note-the first trip when I wasn't watching temps(de fueling?),temp outside was in the 90's.
As an aside,the coolant temp "needle" has only moved past center one time that I noticed,when I was returning home from this trip.As soon as I got back on flat ground,it went back to center.Do these have a digital readout for coolant anywhere on the gauges?I couldn't find one.
Another note-the first trip when I wasn't watching temps(de fueling?),temp outside was in the 90's.
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With a bone stock truck it doesn't surprise me.
You need to keep in mind. Half the "opinions" here are trucks that are stock with stock emissions and the other half are stock with DeIeted emissions. (With the later making a difference)
It would be a hard thing to know without monitoring, but your coolant temperatures while climbing that pass would be very helpful.
What does the "mesh thing" look like in the front. Reason I ask is these engines literally need all the air they can get across the front end. Especially if your truck is still has all emissions intact.
You need to keep in mind. Half the "opinions" here are trucks that are stock with stock emissions and the other half are stock with DeIeted emissions. (With the later making a difference)
It would be a hard thing to know without monitoring, but your coolant temperatures while climbing that pass would be very helpful.
What does the "mesh thing" look like in the front. Reason I ask is these engines literally need all the air they can get across the front end. Especially if your truck is still has all emissions intact.
Also, one thing I noticed is the fan on these trucks RARELY turn on. When I hear it finally turn on, oil temps start to drop.
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You know it's funny you mention that.
Two things I've noticed. My old 2011 fan would come on with ease especially if it was 100 degrees until I got rolling. AC on max.
This 2015 seems to NEVER come on AND the AC does not hold a candle.to my 2011 did.
Both DeIeted since new.
I do wonder what they changed in the tuning fan wise. I asked sparta-n and got no reply.
I really preferred the fan on monetarily until I got some ground speed going.
Daddy454... for your conscience. Google "6.7L powerstroke oil temperature" you will read for hours on the same concerns from MANY other drivers. My first thought would be to remove the mesh inserts between the grill bars. Just for a trial.
This is the best I have right now.It does seem a little restrictive.I'll pull that off,and clean out the rad just to eliminate that.
Cat..I did read Some of the info on the oil temps,just not completely convinced its "OK" I guess.New to me truck,and a total diesel noob.Appreciate your help man.
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I've noticed this too.Everyone says its a huge power draw,and you'll know when it comes on.I haven't noticed it yet.
This is the best I have right now.It does seem a little restrictive.I'll pull that off,and clean out the rad just to eliminate that.
Cat..I did read Some of the info on the oil temps,just not completely convinced its "OK" I guess.New to me truck,and a total diesel noon.Appreciate your help man.
I'd remove those screens ASAP
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Copy that.First thing.
If you want to monitor stuff like the coolant temp. I'd get a Edge CTS2 monitor. Just the monitor though. I'd get tuning from someone else.
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Remove the screen as a start before changing anything mechanical as stated.
Like I have stated my temps. My truck is stock. I tow 18000+ up 5-16% (not a typo) grades so yes it gets warm. The truck will loose some weight shortly just been lazy.
I can really hear the fan about 250 oil temp. Coolant I don't have a clue but it is well over 1/2, most likely 5/8.
I am not letting the truck loose weight for oil temp. I doubt that would matter with the 6.7. Reason is the oil is cooled by engine coolant. Unless you get the engine temp down the oil temp can't come down. Might be wrong but everything is temp difference in cooling.
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Like I have stated my temps. My truck is stock. I tow 18000+ up 5-16% (not a typo) grades so yes it gets warm. The truck will loose some weight shortly just been lazy.
I can really hear the fan about 250 oil temp. Coolant I don't have a clue but it is well over 1/2, most likely 5/8.
I am not letting the truck loose weight for oil temp. I doubt that would matter with the 6.7. Reason is the oil is cooled by engine coolant. Unless you get the engine temp down the oil temp can't come down. Might be wrong but everything is temp difference in cooling.
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Remove the screen as a start before changing anything mechanical as stated.
Like I have stated my temps. My truck is stock. I tow 18000+ up 5-16% (not a typo) grades so yes it gets warm. The truck will loose some weight shortly just been lazy.
I can really hear the fan about 250 oil temp. Coolant I don't have a clue but it is well over 1/2, most likely 5/8.
I am not letting the truck loose weight for oil temp. I doubt that would matter with the 6.7. Reason is the oil is cooled by engine coolant. Unless you get the engine temp down the oil temp can't come down. Might be wrong but everything is temp difference in cooling.
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The E G R uses the same coolant the oil cooler uses.
Air Intake temp will be cooler and exhaust gases will be cooler with no D P F. Alot less strain on the primary cooling system without emissions equipment in place.
And Daddy454. Yes you might as well have a winter front on with those screens!!
