STAGE 3 TRANS REBUILD NOT RIGHT

[ricg]

hey guys need some help.. I just got my 5r rebuilt with stage 3 kit from patc at a local well know ford mechanic and convertor rebuilt by Circle D. When I installed it and ran it for the first day it ran strong. when I went to drive it to work thee next day it had a bad slip when going 3-4 gear. somethimes it would bang in and out then finally grab a gear and go.. I took it back in and told him what was going on and he said he probally needed to replace the drum and forward clutches (thought this was all included.) anyway he had it for a few days and I got it back. went for a drive the next day and its doing the same thing.. he said he installed new solenoids, shift kit and new clutches. im running just the 300hd, head studs, intake, and cold side pipe as far as mods go.. Im at a lost here.. I even removed my tune and reinstalled it.. Anybody have any ideas what it could be?

Thanks

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

At this point it could be anything. The only way to really see what's going on is take it to a place that does 5r's and have them tear it down and look at it. He could have messed up the stack or not installed a machined plate or who knows what else. I'm not familiar with patc or what they actually include besides just replacing the stock clutches.

Sorry to say but it's either keep taking it back to the same guy and hopefully he will get it right or take it somewhere new.

 

[swinky]

They shift 3-5 not 3-4. If you're having issues on that shift and that shift only it's acting like a direct clutch/solenoid issue. How does it act when going from drive to reverse and reverse to drive?

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[ricg]

the first time I got I back the shift from drive to reverse was a long wait. when I got it back the second time the wait was gone.. it slips right into reverse from any gear. he said it was the direct clutch and drum and he said he replaced them. he said it has all new solenoid already.

 

[3brorce]

PATC stage3. "Let us turn your 5R110W transmission into a much stronger transmission. This transmission comes with a Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit for better shifts. Extra Alto Red Eagle clutches and Kolene steels are added to the forward and direct clutch sets for more holding power. The other clutch sets are Alto Red Eagle lining. An updated Low / Reverse one way clutch snap ring and other updates are installed. This package deal comes with a high performance / heavy duty Triple Clutch torque converter. This converter is a multi disk design with three friction surfaces and has much more holding power. Other upgrades include a hardened billet steel input shaft, valve body pressure switch O-ring end plugs and a free PATC T-shirt. Here's the bottom line, if you have a programmer, power adders or tow heavy loads you must have a performance / heavy duty transmission and torque converter for your transmission to last. This transmission is good for towing, motor homes, snow plowing, 4WD, high performance and others."

 

[08SUPERKING]

That is good info on them and good to know that its only good for towing and higher
horse power trucks...

 

[ricg]

Well Ive have the trans tore down 3 times with new parts since its been rebuilt and still same problems. Could the transgo hd2 kit have anything to do with it?

 

[range91]

Red eagle clutches suck IMO. They are to hard and will glaze causing problems especially on a trans that is adaptive. All it takes is a few flair shift which 5r's will do every once in a while and he clutches are glazed. I have had horrible luck with red eagle will never use them again.


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[ricg]

I've heard good and bad about them. But being all new clutches it shouldn't have this problem. It almost feels like its not holding pressure.

 

[Dzchey21]

Might need to get a Guage on it to check line pressure while it happens

 

[ricg]

has anyone installed a transgo reprogramming kit in their truck along with a tuner?

 

[NathannialD]

has anyone installed a transgo reprogramming kit in their truck along with a tuner?

ya, in every trans we build.

 

[ricg]

Well now he is saying it might be a problem with the tuning.. I don't understand. he has pulled it out a total of 3 times and the I keep getting it back with the same problem. today it got stuck in 4th and wouldn't come out until I turned it off and on again.

 

[NathannialD]

This is why it's recommended to have someone experienced do the build. I also question the no name converter.

 

[Pizza pig]

I can tell you right now its not Matts tuning, its more the fact he has no idea what he is doing. When you start blaming other things on other people than you know you have issues.