ghohouston
Active member
I've only ever used the Rosewood style and definitely agree you can hear and feel the cups bottom out. And 100% on the dime trick.
Stainless steel injector cups
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Maryland dieselnick
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Yep! The thud is your friend!!!
Riff Raff….., Knows full well how to keep the tap cuttings out of the cylinder or certainly should. It doesn’t even rise to basic mechanical knowledge level 101. 17 year old diesel tech intern knows that! but they chose to write that. ( starting to get they full picture yet? ).
The “ THUD RULE “ applies to installing the injectors. Start the injector retaining plate on the fixed stud first. Then use a rubber covered handle-shorted handled maul to prevent slippage. Put the end of the handle on the end of the injector retaining plate that gets tightened down. Push down on head of short handled maul. Feel and hear that thud that is your friend. Then thread in and torque the bolt. Don’t be beating or even pushing on the solenoid! Don’t use the crankdown method! You have a high likelihood of reaching desired torque measurement before that injector is fully seated in the cup.
Riff Raff….., Knows full well how to keep the tap cuttings out of the cylinder or certainly should. It doesn’t even rise to basic mechanical knowledge level 101. 17 year old diesel tech intern knows that! but they chose to write that. ( starting to get they full picture yet? ).
The “ THUD RULE “ applies to installing the injectors. Start the injector retaining plate on the fixed stud first. Then use a rubber covered handle-shorted handled maul to prevent slippage. Put the end of the handle on the end of the injector retaining plate that gets tightened down. Push down on head of short handled maul. Feel and hear that thud that is your friend. Then thread in and torque the bolt. Don’t be beating or even pushing on the solenoid! Don’t use the crankdown method! You have a high likelihood of reaching desired torque measurement before that injector is fully seated in the cup.
Maryland dieselnick
Member
And And Ghohouston seems to be an ok guy despite being a Rebel. 
PSD POWER007
Member
I have 502,000 miles on my truck. Bought it in 2011 with 24,000 on it. The last two years or so, I’ve put a little over 215,000 on it. Been a road warrior since 2020 COVID. That’s when the new motor went in with the RR stainless cups.
Maryland dieselnick
Member
Thank you for the reply.
Why did you need an engine replacement? Was it explained to you as to why? How many miles were on it at that point? Was this a “ New To You Engine”? It was not new, as there have only been rebuilds available. Contract rebuilders do not use those cups. Did the rebuilder of that engine state, It’s past history, it’s found condition upon tear down, show related photos of. Does that shop have decades of reputable business? In the shop, are there tons of aftermarket company stickers plastered everywhere? Was it explained to you as to the wisdom for selecting those cups?
I am not being confrontational. I am only asking pertinent questions.
Why did you need an engine replacement? Was it explained to you as to why? How many miles were on it at that point? Was this a “ New To You Engine”? It was not new, as there have only been rebuilds available. Contract rebuilders do not use those cups. Did the rebuilder of that engine state, It’s past history, it’s found condition upon tear down, show related photos of. Does that shop have decades of reputable business? In the shop, are there tons of aftermarket company stickers plastered everywhere? Was it explained to you as to the wisdom for selecting those cups?
I am not being confrontational. I am only asking pertinent questions.
PSD POWER007
Member
It was a completely built long block by a VERY reputable build shop. I asked said shop to not install the cups as I had my own. I did my own installation of the RR cups based on reviews that I had read. I used the RR cup tool which I personally own. And they worked beautifully for me since.
I installed a new motor because my other had low compression on 2 cylinders. It had a ton of miles towing at over 450whp. It earned its keep as is my current motor.
I installed a new motor because my other had low compression on 2 cylinders. It had a ton of miles towing at over 450whp. It earned its keep as is my current motor.
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hucorey
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I've used the OTC, RR, and Rosewood cup tools. I like the Rosewood tool the best mainly because I can get them pulled and installed much faster vs the other two. Like Nick said, drop a dime, squirt of grease on the flutes of the tap, or a piece of a shop towel in the bottom of the cup to keep the shavings from going into the cylinder.
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Trigger warning.
Going to be a couple three weeks before this build is up and running.
Cups installed fine, seated with a solid hit. I didn't see any need for them to be rolled in as the design appears to lock them in place far better than the traditional brass cups. Since these cups are machined parts rather than sheet metal stampings, they have a good bit of spring back against the id of the bore. I'll update if any problems come up, but after dealing with them first hand I don't have any reason at this point to expect any issues.
Going to be a couple three weeks before this build is up and running.
Cups installed fine, seated with a solid hit. I didn't see any need for them to be rolled in as the design appears to lock them in place far better than the traditional brass cups. Since these cups are machined parts rather than sheet metal stampings, they have a good bit of spring back against the id of the bore. I'll update if any problems come up, but after dealing with them first hand I don't have any reason at this point to expect any issues.
It's going very differently than originally planned. I'll update as things progress.
I do miss my old bronco. I have strong feelings that if I come across a full size bronco for the right price that is what I'll be doing with this engine.
I do miss my old bronco. I have strong feelings that if I come across a full size bronco for the right price that is what I'll be doing with this engine.
lincolnlocker
Well-known member
Old bronco? Did you have a 7.3 in that as well?
I had a Bronco years ago and was shopping around for a donor truck either 12v or 7.3 to do the swap when I found my excursion. It was while I was bringing the Ex home I started to realize I wouldn't be keeping the Bronco. My excursion is the centurion I never got to have, and now that it is pretty much done, some interior work and paint & body are all that's left, I'm itching for a project to keep me entertained.
Going back to my original plan of a diesel swapped Bronco is back on the radar. A lifted Lincoln Mark IV monster car is on that list too so nothing is set in stone just yet. I had even considered putting a 7.3 in a dodge pickup, just for the hilarity of it.
In the end, this one is just all about having fun and enjoying a bit of absurdity.
Going back to my original plan of a diesel swapped Bronco is back on the radar. A lifted Lincoln Mark IV monster car is on that list too so nothing is set in stone just yet. I had even considered putting a 7.3 in a dodge pickup, just for the hilarity of it.
In the end, this one is just all about having fun and enjoying a bit of absurdity.
Arisley
Moderator
A 7.3 in an old 1050's Suburban would be cool also. Or an old Dodge D200.
Those still get installed with loctite?
International Scout would be pretty sweet too.
Powerstroke Cowboy
Well-known member
At the shop? If that's the case, that's hilarious!!It's 2023 and we're being taught how to install 7.3 injectors
In this thread
Powerstroke Cowboy
Well-known member
Gotcha. My first time was maybe 12 years ago?? It's not something you forget .
