The no no bolts discussion

DEEZUZ · Oct 15, 2015

Let's start off with this is NOT for a customers truck. I would never ever recommend it or sell it even at their request.

With that being said I'm working out a deal on a truck that I believe needs a lifter. It's in the first stages of failure. The rest of the engine would be good to go, I plan on doing just lifters, cam, gaskets etc.

But... I do NOT want to pull the crank out. Question is, how many of you guys have successfully removed the bolts and balancer and put it back together successfully? How did you do it? Did you etch a mark or paint a mark? There is no dowel pin or chamfer correct?

I'm probably keeping the truck as it is CLEAN.

pdumont01 · Oct 15, 2015

Why would the crank have to come out to change lifters? Are you talking about the adapter between the flywheel and crank?

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DEEZUZ · Oct 15, 2015

Also changing camshaft

pdumont01 · Oct 15, 2015

The adapter comes off the rear of the crank, I have removed and installed them many times, all I did was mark it with a punch for orientation, book says never remove it but I have not run into any issues. I have never removed the crank to do lifters even at the dealer.

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DEEZUZ · Oct 15, 2015

And no, I'm talking about the rear crankshaft flange. It block the cam gear from being removed. Some people just remove the flange to pull cam. Your supposed to remove the entire crank

DEEZUZ · Oct 15, 2015

No known vibrations?

pdumont01 · Oct 15, 2015

None that I can recall. But like I said I put it on exactly how it came off, clocked wrong it will probably vibrate. I held the flange while prying it off so it didn't go flying and get put back in wrong position. I've done probably 10 like that.

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DEEZUZ · Oct 15, 2015

So this flange actually had a seat? Or is it just flat on flat surface?

The bolts can't directly center this thing which is what I'm worried about. Being off center, not clocked wrong

pdumont01 · Oct 15, 2015

I can't recall, I don't want to give u wrong info hopefully someone else can chime in. I'm pretty sure it centers on the crank, not the bolts. I've definitely done it and know it can be done though lol.

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DEEZUZ · Oct 15, 2015

Yea I know. I'm willing to give it a try but only on my truck. I just hate to undo the bottom end when it's not necessary

Luke@MillerPerformance · Oct 15, 2015

CTC DEEZUL said:
Yea I know. I'm willing to give it a try but only on my truck. I just hate to undo the bottom end when it's not necessary

I've done it many times. The crank adapter has a lip it presses onto as you tighten the bolts. Just make note of where it was positioned at TDC and you'll be okay.

DEEZUZ · Oct 15, 2015

Awesome. Thanks!

Dieselmore · Oct 31, 2015

Set piston 1 at tdc, and line up dowell in orientation (the adapter dowell will be at the 12 o'clock position if I remember)Remove and reinstall the adapter and check the runout when your down. RCD sells the bolts, so why wouldn't it be possible to remove the bolts... checking the runout when done is key

04stroker · Oct 31, 2015

Done it several times as well. You can get the bolts as well at Ford they are the same bolts as the crank dampener bolts.

08strokin · Oct 31, 2015

As stated above i did the same just mark your orientation use new bolts and i used a dial indicator as i slowly turned the crank by hand to check run-out

DEEZUZ · Oct 31, 2015

Someone said there might be a flange, is there any truth to this? Cause if there was then there shouldn't need to check runout

04stroker · Oct 31, 2015

There Is a flange I check run out just to be safe. I also use the indicator just to make sure I got it back on the crank straight.

78f100 · Oct 31, 2015

I remember this being discussed long time ago. It surprised me how many said they have tried it with no issue. From what I read the crank is balanced with it bolted on as one unit. Removing it and not getting it back exactly as it was could/would throw the balance off a touch. I have pulled one off a old crank, personally I can't see it being a issue if it's lined back up as it was. Maybe on a really high rpm motor but not the normal play toy.

DEEZUZ · Dec 7, 2015

So made some marks and trying to get this thing off the crank. It will not move.. just using a dead blow. .might have to get the hand sledge out?

pdumont01 · Dec 7, 2015

I used a big prybar and pryed between cam gear and adapter. If I remember there may be other points to pry on. Work it back and forth it will go.

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