Up pipe recommendations. Debating on upgrading from stock while turbo is out

brandonmc07 · Jan 23, 2017

My factory up pipes aren't leaking yet but I have the turbo out right now because I'm upgrading to riffraff's non-ebpv pedestal and a garret high flow outlet due to oil leaks. From what I read, it's not if, it's when your up pipes will leak. It's a 2001 with 105k miles. When did you guys upgrade yours? And if you you haven't and still not leaking, how many miles are you running on the factory pipes? I'm looking at international's bellowed stainless on riff-raff for $399 with the ceramic option for $540. Is the ceramic really even worth it? Anyway, I'm just trying to decide if I should just go ahead and drop the cash on a new set now while I have everything out.

JD3020 · Jan 23, 2017

I've had Dorman up-pipes on my F-450 for 2 years now, truck gets ran pretty hard daily with no issues. Think i paid $120 for them? Generally i hate cheap aftermarket parts, but surprisingly their up-pipes seem to be good.

The Brad · Jan 23, 2017

Mine started leaking around 110k and I just replaced the donut seals...that didn't work worth a damn, so I took it all apart again and went with the Internationals. That ceramic coating price seems pretty steep. I think I paid $75 to have my T4 pipes coated.

HBDELUX · Jan 24, 2017

I ran the Dorman up-pipes as well no issues and can't beat the price.

brandonmc07 · Jan 24, 2017

Well I went ahead and ordered the internationals today. I'm dreading the install though. If you guys have any tricks or pointers, let me know. Thanks

DEEZUZ · Jan 24, 2017

dont worry about trying to unbolt the factory ones. just get a blue wrench in there or a wheel and cut them. dont tighten anything until everything is set in place

The Brad · Jan 24, 2017

I've never had to cut them. Just unbolt from the manifolds and wiggle 'em out of the baby's but, then yank the turbo with the baby's butt attached.

Before installing the new ones, bolt the driver side pipe to the baby's butt, then drop it in and install the passenger side. Leave everything loose until the turbo is installed.

brandonmc07 · Jan 25, 2017

Thanks guys. Ya hopefully I won't have to mess with cutting but if I do, CTC DEEZUL, what exactly do you mean by a "blue wrench"? My guess is a torch. Lol

HBDELUX · Jan 26, 2017

If you Spray all the nuts and bolts down real good with penetrating oil the day before it will help. For assembly do as stated above.

brandonmc07 · Jan 27, 2017

I will let you guys know how it goes. Just need a day or two off work!

ja_cain · Jan 27, 2017

brandonmc07 said:
I will let you guys know how it goes. Just need a day or two off work!

I'm getting ready to do my up-pipes and EBPV ******d pedestal too. Looking forward to some pics from you. Btw, where in VA are you from?

brandonmc07 · Jan 27, 2017

I need to change my location. I was stationed at Quantico Marine Corps Base north Fredericksburg. In Missouri now. Ya I'll post some pics. My CCV doghouse is leaking too so im throwing new orings in there along with the doghouse, becuase it's corroding.

ja_cain · Jan 27, 2017

brandonmc07 said:
I need to change my location. I was stationed at Quantico Marine Corps Base north Fredericksburg. In Missouri now. Ya I'll post some pics. My CCV doghouse is leaking too so im throwing new orings in there along with the doghouse, becuase it's corroding.

That's cool. What was your mos?

How do you like those hybrids? Who built them?

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Flounder_Pounder · Jan 27, 2017

CTC DEEZUL said:
dont worry about trying to unbolt the factory ones. just get a blue wrench in there or a wheel and cut them. dont tighten anything until everything is set in place

Ditto, just cut the old out on the bottom. I've done both Dorman and International, the international are nicer and go in easier.... But not 300 dollars nicer and easier :shrug:

BS Hauler · Jan 28, 2017

Mine has 130,000 on it and I am changing my turbo so I bought new up pipes. My bolts that are in the manifolds were so corroded in that I finally had to lift my cab off to get the rest of the pieces out of them. I bought the IH up pipes. So as long as my cab was off I decided to put exhaust wrap on them. I am also installing a RiffRaff Frx and making new fuel lines and getting rid of the steel lines from the fuel bowl to the heads. I think that I am going to change injectors while I am at it also.

brandonmc07 · Jan 28, 2017

I was a helicopter crew chief 6172. The hybrids are from diesel innovations. Their the only after markets I've ever had so I don't really have much to compare them to, but I like them so far. About 20k miles on them with no problems. Huge power upgrade from stock of course.

brandonmc07 · Jan 31, 2017

Well I stripped the heads on 2 of the turbo outlet bolts. So until I get those out so I can put my new blank outlet on, I'm at a stand still on installing the up pipes.

brandonmc07 · Feb 4, 2017

Well I got it done. The only problem I had was 2 stripped bolts on the turbo outlet. The passenger side up pipe to manifold bolts were pretty tough to remove and install. I did pull it off without remove fender liners or the exhaust downpipe.

superpsd · Feb 4, 2017

Quick tip. I used the pink injector O rings to seal my CCV. The rings that separates the fuel from the oil to seals my CCV. They work better than the factory o ring design in my opinion.