What's the Best Big Oil?

Hotrodtractor · May 19, 2011

JAP said:
I heard HRT was building a pump big enough to supply up to 10k psi to 700cc injectors with no parasitic loss and no leak points.

LMAO! That is how rumors get started!

It is true that I do like to go big or go home.... but there are a few options currently available that could work for me with some tweaks.

TrailerHauler · May 19, 2011

big_stroker said:
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MINK · May 19, 2011

big_stroker said:
What else is the internet good for besides porn

O forsure

Charles · May 19, 2011

The best big oil is whatever isn't on my truck. Cause the second I install it, it doesn't work anymore...

Unless I remove it and put it on another truck.

RedSmokey · May 19, 2011

Good to see you made it over Charles!

TARM · May 19, 2011

Charles said:
The best big oil is whatever isn't on my truck. Cause the second I install it, it doesn't work anymore...

Unless I remove it and put it on another truck.

I thought you had gotten the BTS dialedin, working, and were happy with it? Not the case or something change?

Charles · May 19, 2011

TARM said:
I thought you had gotten the BTS dialedin, working, and were happy with it? Not the case or something change?

lol. My ICP doesn't do a thing I tell it. No matter what pump(s) I run. Hell, I'm just glad I got the dome light to stop strobing and the relays under the dash to stop clicking, lol.

The Gen3 runs the pressure all over the place and the BTS makes no power, smokes like a train and sounds like it's got negative 5 degrees of timing. Stock single makes no power for the same reasons.

TARM · May 19, 2011

Damn. That would cuase a number of new tool holesw in the shop walls.

Youn have ruled out tune adj? any theory beyound your truck is possessed and derives pleasure from your insanity!?!

Powerstroke Racer · May 19, 2011

TARM said:
Damn. .

Youn have ruled out tune adj? any theory beyound your truck is possessed and derives pleasure from your insanity!?!

LOL

Smokyred · May 19, 2011

MINK said:
ADR FTMFW!

Exactly, for the wife's truck maybe! lol.

Dave

ITUKMOR · May 22, 2011

just started testing the new SRP1 pump from Stecher. Definitely took like 4 months to get in but for a pump to retail for $699 it damn sure can keep up with 300/200% w/ no problems.

Big Bore · May 22, 2011

TrailerHauler said:
What a great first thread! I believe there's unknown ground that has yet to be covered using triple pumps.

Yes, I'm sure plenty of ground will be covered by engine oil when the nozzles punch holes clear through the pistons and pan.

Short Bus · May 22, 2011

swamp_ratt said:
Is this bs or for real?

its real. he said something about a flux capacitor being involved.

TARM · May 23, 2011

Triples?

I think I would chose to do dual stealth SRP1s or if I needed more dual stealth stage IIs. Think that would be a bit easier and fit better than trying to run triple.stockers. This of course is all hypothetical on my part.

Bruno2 · May 23, 2011

The benefits of big oil?

I dont know if I am a candidate for bigger oil or not. I am running 160 cc stg II's with 80% nozzles. I have a total Diesel chip on the truck. I am running a stock 15° in an OBS truck. The only time I see a CEL is when I get up on the hwy really laying on the go pedal. I can go wot through first and all the way through third w/o a light(I have a 5spd). If I step up my oil will I see any performance on the bottm where I am not getting the CEL or will nothing change there?

Chvyrkr · May 23, 2011

Bruno2 said:
The benefits of big oil?

I dont know if I am a candidate for bigger oil or not. I am running 160 cc stg II's with 80% nozzles. I have a total Diesel chip on the truck. I am running a stock 15° in an OBS truck. The only time I see a CEL is when I get up on the hwy really laying on the go pedal. I can go wot through first and all the way through third w/o a light(I have a 5spd). If I step up my oil will I see any performance on the bottm where I am not getting the CEL or will nothing change there?

You're not seeing a CEL until after 3rd because it takes something like 15-20 seconds of the PCM seeing the existing condition before it sets the light.

So, the problem is there in 1st-3rd most likely, you just aren't there long enough to see the light.

I don't think you're a canidate for "big" oil, but "better" oil like the SRP1 or the Adrenaline would probably do quite well in your truck.

And it'll make a difference everywhere you're asking alot from the truck.

Chvyrkr · May 23, 2011

TARM said:
Triples?

I think I would chose to do dual stealth SRP1s or if I needed more dual stealth stage IIs. Think that would be a bit easier and fit better than trying to run triple.stockers. This of course is all hypothetical on my part.

I'd probably work on improving the injector oil flow to combat the internal pressure drop before I looked for any HPO solution beyond what's currently available.

But, so far I don't think anybody's having any solid luck with improving injector flow.

TrailerHauler · May 23, 2011

Chvyrkr said:
I'd probably work on improving the injector oil flow to combat the internal pressure drop before I looked for any HPO solution beyond what's currently available.

But, so far I don't think anybody's having any solid luck with improving injector flow.

x2, ya need a good balance between a good flowing injector and good hpo. Just in recent years, improvements have been made to eliminate the need for big big oil with a wider range of injectors.

And to those taking the tripple pumps seriously, its not. I sure hope no ones thinking about a tripple hpop setup, that sounds fairly disasterous.

Big Bore · May 23, 2011

Bruno2 said:
The benefits of big oil?

I dont know if I am a candidate for bigger oil or not. I am running 160 cc stg II's with 80% nozzles. I have a total Diesel chip on the truck. I am running a stock 15° in an OBS truck. The only time I see a CEL is when I get up on the hwy really laying on the go pedal. I can go wot through first and all the way through third w/o a light(I have a 5spd). If I step up my oil will I see any performance on the bottm where I am not getting the CEL or will nothing change there?

Speaking from experience with the same exact setup, all you need is a good working 17* pump and that CEL will never show up again.

TARM · May 23, 2011

The only way to know for sure lacking a CEL icp code is to data log icp psi and duty %. If it does not hold exactly what the tune calls for thru a full run thru all the gears you would benefit from one. Also looking at duty cycle if you are max'd. Even if you are just barely hold icp you would likely still benefit from the faster ramp up to the called for icp and would see that in better throttle response. Logging the numbers beats butt-o-meter imo. Most find a nice improvement with hydrid with that nozzle size with an a code that is a higher oil ratio it would be more so.