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Message: [QUOTE="BuiltPowerStrokeTough, post: 1249749, member: 14650"] Its great that you guys are coming out with another option for tuning. While I am happy to see that there will be more options coming to the market, I will say I would happen to agree with DSL PWR on this one. From a lot of things I have read (I know, you cant believe everything you read online so you're welcome to correct me if its wrong!), but seems like there was several people unhappy with driveability of your tuning and some reliability concerns. Some have said that there hasnt been one update to your tuning on the 11-12s to help address these issues. Is this correct? That may have burned some bridges which will take time to fix. You mentioned that youd rather not rush something to market and having the tuning properly built, but there seems to be people left hangin for a long time from your original 11-12 release due to trying to bring something to the market first. Just an observation, may not be facts. This is not intended to be a personal bash on you or your company. Im just someone who does a lot of research before I ever buy anything and am not biased one way or another. And when I bought my tuner a couple years ago, the choice was either down to you or H&S. I chose H&S due to a LOT of reading reviews and dont regret it one bit. I could have gone either way at that time though. And as you put it that time has settled that discussion about H&S. Even though H&S is gone and has been gone, we all still hear frequently that everyone wishes that platform hadnt gone away due to the countless options available. I dont hear the same about Spartan tuning and that is why I believe you have some damage control to do to gain the customers back. Which I believe is what DSL PWR was essentially getting at. Anyways, best of luck to you on your future tuning and hope it helps drive the market to be more competive. Cause when that happens, we all win!! :toast: [/QUOTE]