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Message: [QUOTE="dsmracing1, post: 1111704, member: 16480"] What some people fail to realize is they're built for towing and not hauling ass. An F150 with a supercharger will haul ass but that's about all they're good for. Like Red Rice said they're 8000 lbs with no additional gear. My truck weighs 9500lbs with my work gear, tidy tank etc and its plenty fast for me.... And I don't know where you get off saying that the tunes that are out aren't any good. I'd say all but stock H&S tunes are damn good! I've been driving all brands of diesels for the last 10 years and these powerstrokes are insane in stock form... [/QUOTE]

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