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Message: [QUOTE="KCTurbos, post: 1321509, member: 13852"] WOW! This thread did not go the way I was hoping. I am hoping we can get back on track a little bit and don't want to start anything. BUT i wanted to point out a few things. I notice a lot of negativity towards straub cams and side action diesel... I agree with many of the points you are making and I appreciate your input/data, but I wanted to run a few things by you. KEEP IN MIND I AM NOT SELLING ANYTHING, just doing research. If you really are interested in the specs for the straub cams then give him a call. I am not sure if they have decided anything 100% but he was MORE THAN WILLING to share any and all info. Most of the questions that you are asking were answered when I talked to him over the phone but I did not write anything down. Also... You seem to be stuck a lot of how straub has not provided any data/results... in all my searching they are the FIRST to provide ANY sort of before/after information. All the rest simply added a cam during a big build and said how much they like the cam. Side action diesel does not have the "rights" to straub cams... BUT... Chris/straub said that he would be willing to make custom grinds for anyone... so it is quite possible for side action diesel to make their own exclusive cam and sell it as their own. I am not saying thats what they are doing but it was asked why they keep calling them "their cams"... so maybe they have an exclusive design On that same note the first cam straub is planning to release are for "stockish" trucks looking to keep the same power band. He told me that he would custom grind a cam for ANY application so if you want to move the power band up in the rpms then that is definitely possible. 6.0 and 6.4 trucks are very different, but they share the same cam, similar displacement, similar heads, similar intake, etc... I take it with a grain of salt but I appreciate the info that side action has presented. Anybody else have any actual info on cams? Maybe at what point one should jump from a stage 2 to stage 3? If there is any loss in bottom end? :ford: [/QUOTE]