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Message: [QUOTE="TyCorr, post: 1033445, member: 1451"] Yea Tarm we can get off of this but people are trying to convince owners of the pumps that they dont have failed pumps or that they dont know enough to say that, which is exactly how Gary speaks of his customers. So its bs in that sense and needs to be handled as such. I dont give a bakers crap if Gary himself came on here, he has nothing to say that makes tons of pumps magically not broken. If he came in here and said "if your truck is doing x, y, and z and wont start after its hot, your pump is bad but Im not able to afford to repair everybodies for free "Id accept that. Fine. But he got royally ignorant with me when I suggested it may be the pump and told me the guys at fullforce are idiots for suggesting that water trick. You know pouring water over the pump to shrink the sloppy tolerances so it'll build icp again? Theres a lot more going on here than Ive said. And theres some things that dont need to be said until its totally a lost cause. The hell with what anybody thinks. Me and smokinstroker both have about 8 grand in trashed junk from running one of those pumps that nobody thinks are failing left and right. And ill bet if you ask smokinstroker92 he probably knows of a "few" people that had the same experience. Why is it my job to take apart a pump with 4800 miles on it mj? I suppose a whole bunch of these pumps werent puking their guts out into the valley either mj? Well, they were. If you're just being curious, you have a seriously irritating and grating way of asking questions. Ok, Tarm, Im done with ranting but its stupid to hide this crap. [/QUOTE]