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Message: [QUOTE="AllanB, post: 423694, member: 3978"] Not trying to talk you into notching the frame. Like I said I might not be the best person to talk to because I have never done it. But I have done a little research on them. When you notch the frame, you can place the top shock mount on the c-notch itself, and this will allow normal length shocks to be used. I am not sure of the exact location on the Superduty shocks, but I will check tomorrow. At worse you would re-locate your shocks. But in the end, removing the bumpstops does work and I have had no problems. For the OUO setup, I am not sure why it isn't on their site but they do make it, or at least they did. This is OUO's flip u-bolt traction bar kit. It should work just right for you. [url]http://www.trucktoyzstore.com/realm/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3043[/url] DJM's kit is half ass. I guess it is ok if what you want is looks with moderate power. But for guys pushing the power on up there, and then doing the supension mods to get the power to the ground. It ain't gonna cut it for sure. When you order your perches, let me know where you got them and the part number so I can order a set. [/QUOTE]

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