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Rmartin-97 · Oct 2, 2012

Whats faster extreme x or extreme race? What feels the fastest or went the fastest at the track?

Strokin6.4 · Oct 2, 2012

Extreme race NO doubt. Even from a roll where the X is suppose to be dominate the extreme race it's not as fast. Never ran it at the track but messing around on street I feel a huge difference.
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Dustball8504 · Oct 2, 2012

My truck went 12.69@105 weighing 8180 pounds on Xtreme X. I haven't ran Xrace at the track yet.

powerlifter405 · Oct 2, 2012

After trading emails w/ Eric, he advised that @ WOT, both programs are bascially the same.
The difference is in the fuel and timing tables at partial throttle.
My Xt-race is on the LW and the Xt-X was emailed. He did mention LW preloaded will produce better numbers than emailed versions so there is possibly a slight difference but I"m under the impression that on a dyno or track the #'s should be nearly identical.

I have driven both, discussed the observations of less power and the answered as above.

However, I was advised that the 3.02 should have a few extra ponies and may even pick up mileage, per his email.

Strokin6.4 · Oct 2, 2012

Was also told 3.02 is suppose to have a pretty nasty xrace, for the guys not afraid of a little smoke

I'm hoping the race lock is still an option as well. I don't mind the touchy pedal and smoke at low boost so extreme race def fits me better. The extreme x is a great DD tune but a lot of timing rattle

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MINK · Oct 2, 2012

I run the XRace 3.01...I cant imagine having anymore down low fuel LOL

Dustball8504 · Oct 2, 2012

Strokin6.4 said:
Was also told 3.02 is suppose to have a pretty nasty xrace, for the guys not afraid of a little smoke I'm hoping the race lock is still an option as well. I don't mind the touchy pedal and smoke at low boost so extreme race def fits me better. The extreme x is a great DD tune but a lot of timing rattle

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Race lock is still an option, my X3 that fried my PCM was a 3.02 X3 and had it. I did run that XRace and it was strong, I don't know if it was stronger than my XX though.

MINK said:
I run the XRace 3.01...I cant imagine having anymore down low fuel LOL

I had an e-mailed version of Xrace last year and my 3.02 version smoked just as much as it did down low.

Strokin6.4 · Oct 2, 2012

Eric told me it's about 2 tenths slower than the 3.01 race. But I don't know about the new race tune

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Dustball8504 · Oct 2, 2012

I may have to go to the strip and try both just to see.

extreme3807 · Oct 2, 2012

Race was faster at the track than street. On the dyno though, street always produced higher numbers than race

Jmoore1225 · Oct 2, 2012

What effects if any does timing rattle have to the engine say long term? Any proof it isn't hurting the motor? Gearheads hot street has it as well....

dommel01 · Oct 2, 2012

i have both, xrace pulls alot harder, eric told me that the xrace is the tune to have if you want all out power, extreme x is more of a dd tune

powerstrokin15 · Oct 2, 2012

im loving my xtreme x as a DD. xtreme race pulls harder out of the hole. but my xtreme x pulls harder up top. a lot harder imo. im seeing around 52-54 psi on 3.0.1 xrace. my xtreme x is the first tune he sent out to anyone. possibly different than others, 57 psi boost max.my xtreme x is very clean and no touchey throttle, xtreme race is super touchey and decently smokey.

Rmartin-97 · Oct 3, 2012

Ex race ordered.

Dustball8504 · Oct 3, 2012

Rmartin-97 said:
Ex race ordered.

Win!

UNLIMITED_DIESEL · Oct 6, 2012

Rmartin-97 said:
Ex race ordered.

It no worky.

Does the same thing Matt's original files did. It slams in reverse and won't move forward. Anyone else ever have this problem? We triple checked the engine and transmission part numbers that were given to both Matt and Eric. Matt was able to get around this somehow. The only tune that has worked the first time was KEM and he only needed the VIN number, not the part numbers. What's the deal???

InnovativeDiesel · Oct 6, 2012

UNLIMITED_DIESEL said:
It no worky.

Does the same thing Matt's original files did. It slams in reverse and won't move forward. Anyone else ever have this problem? We triple checked the engine and transmission part numbers that were given to both Matt and Eric. Matt was able to get around this somehow. The only tune that has worked the first time was KEM and he only needed the VIN number, not the part numbers. What's the deal???

It's probably a different part number on the PCM and TCM than what was flashed from Ford. This can happen for a lot of reasons, but usually an issue when returning back to stock.

Email us and we'll help you figure it out.

Dustball8504 · Oct 6, 2012

UNLIMITED_DIESEL said:
It no worky.

Does the same thing Matt's original files did. It slams in reverse and won't move forward. Anyone else ever have this problem? We triple checked the engine and transmission part numbers that were given to both Matt and Eric. Matt was able to get around this somehow. The only tune that has worked the first time was KEM and he only needed the VIN number, not the part numbers. What's the deal???

That's what happened with mine. Give Eric a call, he'll help you out.