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Message: [QUOTE="Derek@Vision Diesel, post: 583101, member: 344"] No hard numbers still, and I realize thats what people want. But a little info from this weekend that you can take however you want to. A set of mikes hybrids, 400/200 to be exact, were live tuned side by side a similarly set up truck with 350/200 hybrids from another reputable injector builder. The hybrid from Farmers was making smoke free power at 2.1 ms @ 3200psi that the other truck took 3.2 ms to do. Pull and drive ability of the trucks seems to be very similar with the Farmers injectors at 2.1/3200 and the Full Force sticks at 3.2/3200. Both trucks are running bigger oil and s468 turbos with built transmissions. We will be taking the Farmers injectors a little farther than 2.1, but that was far enough for now as the truck is making some very reasonable smoke free power as it is. We will get a file with a little more pulse width added in and go dyno the thing very very soon, hopefully we can get dyno numbers of the Full Force injectors side by side, it is always fun to compare similar products. On the sureflows we live tuned, I am very impressed with the idle quality and drive ability of the van they are in. Bill really hit the nail on the head with it. It is smooth from 40* to 180* EOT, not a single hiccup ever. We haven't loaded anything crazy onto the hydra chip quite yet because we want to be able to monitor fuel pressure before we do... but these injectors are getting better and better the more time people have figuring out the tuning for them. Very exciting results from this weekend and a huge thanks goes out to Bill @ PHP for dialing in these vehicles for us! [/QUOTE]

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