Gauges

[89 Stroker]

How far off is the egt probe on the down pipe compared to the exhaust manifold?

 

[79jasper]

Could easily be a couple hundred degrees.

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[89 Stroker]

the truck i recently bought has the probe on the down pipe right after the turbo, towed with it for the first time this weekend and it did wonderful, i know it needs to be in the exhaust manifold

 

[old man dave]

I ran two pyros for awhile, saw as much as 400*+ difference with exhaust manifold being hotter. One pyro was installed in the downpipe since thats the way the Banks kit was set up. Post turbo doesn't show as high a temperature because the turbo takes off a lot of heat energy to spin, that cools the discharge gases. Old Banks chip was showing 1350* post turbo while towing, you can guess what the manifold temerature was.

 

[89 Stroker]

highest i saw on the gauge today was a little over 900 so being that far off between the downpipe and manifold it cant be good

 

[89 Stroker]

Another thing, since the tranny has one of those mag hytec pans on it, the temp gauges is tapped into the pan itself, would there be a tempature difference with it being wired to the pan as compared to the pressure port on the side of the tranny?

 

[Justin@DP-Tuner]

I ran two pyros for awhile, saw as much as 400*+ difference with exhaust manifold being hotter. One pyro was installed in the downpipe since thats the way the Banks kit was set up. Post turbo doesn't show as high a temperature because the turbo takes off a lot of heat energy to spin, that cools the discharge gases. Old Banks chip was showing 1350* post turbo while towing, you can guess what the manifold temerature was.

:shocked:

Yikes!

highest i saw on the gauge today was a little over 900 so being that far off between the downpipe and manifold it cant be good

That probably puts you in the 1200* ballpark, which isn't hurting anything. However, I would still move it to the manifold ASAP so you don't have to guess. The whole point of a pyro is to see cylinder temperature. A lot of cooling takes place between the manifold and the downpipe.

Another thing, since the tranny has one of those mag hytec pans on it, the temp gauges is tapped into the pan itself, would there be a tempature difference with it being wired to the pan as compared to the pressure port on the side of the tranny?

Yes, it will have a temperature difference. I have seen differences up to around 20* when monitored through the OBDII port (temp taken from solenoid pack), versus the service port, versus in a deep pan.

 

[89 Stroker]

So the port on the side of the tranny is ideal for the temp gauge? First truck iv had with a deep pan/ probe in the pan, on our other truck the temp gauge goes into the port on the side of the tranny.

 

[Justin@DP-Tuner]

So the port on the side of the tranny is ideal for the temp gauge? First truck iv had with a deep pan/ probe in the pan, on our other truck the temp gauge goes into the port on the side of the tranny.

Most people use this port when running an analog trans temp gauge, yes. I use the OBDII port to watch it on my Infinity. When I ran both gauges at the same time, I normally saw a 10-20* difference. The OBDII reading was always hotter.

 

[old man dave]

:shocked:

Yikes!



That probably puts you in the 1200* ballpark, which isn't hurting anything. However, I would still move it to the manifold ASAP so you don't have to guess. The whole point of a pyro is to see cylinder temperature. A lot of cooling takes place between the manifold and the downpipe.



Yes, it will have a temperature difference. I have seen differences up to around 20* when monitored through the OBDII port (temp taken from solenoid pack), versus the service port, versus in a deep pan.

Thats when I was using the POS Banks Ottomind chip, stock injectors and worst case WOT uphill (10K in tow).

Of course when I switched to some "no-name" tunes from Georgia, temps dropped to a much more reasonable 1050* at WOT towing the trailer and with stageII injectors up the same hill and preturbo.

 

[Justin@DP-Tuner]

Thats when I was using the POS Banks Ottomind chip, stock injectors and worst case WOT uphill (10K in tow).

Of course when I switched to some "no-name" tunes from Georgia, temps dropped to a much more reasonable 1050* at WOT towing the trailer and with stageII injectors up the same hill and preturbo.

Thank goodness someone was able to take care of that for ya :ford:

 

[89 Stroker]

noticed the other day my truck has a banks trans command box mounted on the frame, but is not hooked up, supposedly the wires and everything are under there and hooked into the trans but just not hooked to the box, are those things any good?

 

[Justin@DP-Tuner]

noticed the other day my truck has a banks trans command box mounted on the frame, but is not hooked up, supposedly the wires and everything are under there and hooked into the trans but just not hooked to the box, are those things any good?

We always ask that people remove or bypass them when they run one of our tuners. It ends up causing the trans to do funky things if not.

I am not sure how they work stand alone as I have never run one. I do not really hear much good about them though.

 

[old man dave]

noticed the other day my truck has a banks trans command box mounted on the frame, but is not hooked up, supposedly the wires and everything are under there and hooked into the trans but just not hooked to the box, are those things any good?

The Transcommand install swapped some wires around in the trans plug. When removing the Transcommand, Banks included a jumper plug so the plug would not have to be rewired again. Just had to install the jumper plug in place of the Transcommand plug to restore "Stock". Shows a lot of confidence in their product.

Mine worked so good, that when I installed stage II injectors, the trans gave up just as fast as if it wasn't there.

 

[89 Stroker]

We always ask that people remove or bypass them when they run one of our tuners. It ends up causing the trans to do funky things if not.

I am not sure how they work stand alone as I have never run one. I do not really hear much good about them though.

i dont have it hooked up but i dont think i will either,

 

[blackcloudpsd03]

Will the edge cts work on the obs truck? It's a cheaper way of monitoring all more things then they offer with gauges. I had over 600$ in gauges in my old truck ..and I told my self I wouldn't do that again. Hpo.. Boost.. Ebp.. Pyro.. Fuel pressure. Trans temp

 

[89 Stroker]

i have the usual stuff , Trans, Fuel Pressure, Pyro and Boost , i see no need to monitor Ebp or hpop

 

[blackcloudpsd03]

It helps out. Beleive it or not. I went to put this kid in a smoke dodge to shame and when I laid into it 4500 rpms I was only putting out 1500psi. My pump took a dump on me. I had to limp home. I've had a ebp gauge in every thing I owned.

 

[blackcloudpsd03]

Still the edge is still cheaper then a boost pyro and trans temp