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Message: [QUOTE="Tree Trimmer, post: 209291, member: 716"] so, you read various threads, it seems no one likes the spartan tuning, or the ppl who have had it, have changed, which uses the dash daq, and besides spartan, only rcd can use it, afaik. but everyone likes the dash daq for the guages, larger screen, and the threads read like more user friendly/better display. it would seem like the livewire is no longer in production. and wont be forsale within approx 1 year, when current stocks of said tuner deplete. but, it would also seem like everyone wants it, as the device itself is "highly desired". the device is apparantly a real good platform to tune from, just not so much in the display. h&s, has been having communication problems with theirs. i read one post here, that the guy said he could not get the tuner to communicate with his truck, called h&s, and it seemed like they already knew what he was talking about, and shipped him a new one. thats the extent of my knowledge on that, and am not bashing, simply stating something i read. then there is the various tuners available for the various devices. its mind boggling, to say the least. if i forgot a device, please fill it in, as all i got here, is simply from several hours of reading on here, and probably missed some things. im looking to buy a 6.4, hopefully here in the next few days. coming from a 7.3. a simple chip, shift-on-the-fly, and the only thing you really had to decide on was who's tunes to run. there have also been threads, where you have to let the truck learn, and ppl having problems with limp mode, or the tuner being the main issue itself. is tuning a 6.4 that much of a problem? or is it just because of fords latest flash for the pcm, that tightened the parameters for limp mode, thats being the main problem? im not looking for big power. im not goin to mod the hell out of the truck, with third turbo's, or 1000hp injectors, or....or....or..... tuner/intake/exhaust, and im done. so knowing that, what device would you guys choose, and who to put on it? to the guys that have ran various ppl's tunes, or the various devices, whats your input? the threads read, apparantly, eric at innovative, or kem, or h&s are the way to go, i just only want to buy something once, and be done with it. i dont want to have to worry bout studs, or the trans, or the truck not learning, or miscommunications. etc etc. just a mileage increase, and a more peppy truck is all i want, preferably in a no hassle package. which then brings up exhaust, egr, and intake. benefits of dpf delete? do i want to delete it? what is the doc? do i delete the egr? do i....can i....what do i....will it hurt.....does it stay reliable..... what questions did i forget to ask.....you get the idea. thoughts? [/QUOTE]