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Message: [QUOTE="BrewTown, post: 1567202, member: 31811"] I can see how that wasn't clear. In a communist society there's no incentive to excel at anything. You can't work your way up a ladder, increase pay, invent something new and retire on the idea etc... If they had no avenue to reap the benefits of their engineering and problem solving, they simple wouldn't create it. So they are charging for proprietary tech they created. I think they have done quite a bit of testing, just not any that fit the unbiased requirement. You do bring up another question though, do they get the design right on the first try? FEA is only as good as the info you put in right? I wonder how many designs they test before they get an approval? No, I'm not affiliated with them, nor do I have them. I do however hope they work as advertised. And I'd like to see the tests you outlined, that'd really answer some questions. Probably not in their best interest though, as if you can get 50% of the benefits from the ring and coatings, then many would probably stop there and they'd lose business. It'd need to be an independent tester. I definitely don't have the pockets to do it... [/QUOTE]

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