H11 studs

[Dieselcraft]

Ok maybe this week or next week I'm pulling the heads on my sick oh.
Got my injectors rebuilt just got to get them shipped back
Thanks Matt @ full force
I'm ditching my arps and installing a set of h11s
I lost the torque spec.
I'm going to use the latest arp lube.

Give me some feed back yal

Thanks
Weston

 

[Pizza pig]

why did you ditch the arp's?

 

[java]

I'm running H-11s and so far they have been good but I've only put about 1k on them lol

 

[Dieselcraft]

I did hgs last year in aprill maybe 20k miles ago
I put a gallon of coolant in the truck drove 100-150 miles had a flat
And parked the truck lost a gallon of coolant. pulled injectors out
I'm going to double check head flattness and block.
I hope I get to work on it sometime this week but I doubt it

 

[Mdub707]

ARP's should be fine...

but H-11 calls for 165 ft/lbs. I know some do 175 ft/lbs. They also recommend the peanut butter lube too. I'm not sure how the readings would be effected by using the ARP lube...

 

[Craig@MFI]

I would keep the arps and go to 300ftlbs

 

[INFAMOUS]

I do not recommend using the arp lube with H-11s. Give me a call if you need anything man!

 

[Dieselcraft]

I would keep the arps and go to 300ftlbs

I think I torqued to 215 idk
What makes the arps better Craig?

I want to install the best and I have both choices
Somebody please point me in the right direction

 

[Mdub707]

I would do ARP's and stay with their recommended value. 300 is ridiculous.

 

[java]

I kept puking coolant with ARP's even after the block and heads were machined flat, that is why I went with H-11's this go round. I did use the peanut butter lube too.

 

[INFAMOUS]

I kept puking coolant with ARP's even after the block and heads were machined flat, that is why I went with H-11's this go round. I did use the peanut butter lube too.

No more puking?

 

[java]

As of right now I have no puking at all.

 

[Craig@MFI]

I would do ARP's and stay with their recommended value. 300 is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous it works and than can be torqued many times that way

 

[Mdub707]

What gaskets did you use last time? You used the same heads and blocks with no machine work after it puked???

 

[Mdub707]

Why is it ridiculous it works and than can be torqued many times that way

Because they only recommend 210.... 300 is quite a bit above that. I would never use a set of studs a 2nd time that have been torqued to 300, but hey do whatever works for you.

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

I have heard that on a 6.0 (don't know about a 6.4) that arps will snap after about 3 torques at 300 ft lbs

 

[Dieselcraft]

So what's the procedure and torque spec on the h11s
I heard there's a hot torque?

If anybody's intrestead I'll sell one of the two and it will help me make my choice? Lol

 

[Mdub707]

I have heard that on a 6.0 (don't know about a 6.4) that arps will snap after about 3 torques at 300 ft lbs

I can't believe the threads in the block don't become distorted. It wouldn't surprise me if a stud snapped at that high of a torque with the new lube. Some people just don't understand tensile strength and stud stretch.

So what's the procedure and torque spec on the h11s
I heard there's a hot torque?

If anybody's intrestead I'll sell one of the two and it will help me make my choice? Lol

Same sequence as the ARP's, 165 ft/lbs some guys do 175 ft/lbs. They have a higher tensile strength than ARP's, thus the lower torque needed.

I'd love to design a hydraulic stud tensioner here at work for 6.0's.

 

[java]

These are Elites directions.

 

[Dieselcraft]

So are h11s the fix
Or
Arps @ 300 ft lbs

?