ideas for oil bypass filter set up, problems with existing set up

[6point0damn2004]

well, i had the bypass setup on my 6.0 and when I got my 6.4 i transferred it over using the amsoil fill cap and NUC racing filter cap. for those unfamiliar, the bypass filter is fed from the oil filter cap and is returned to the engine via the oil fill cap.

anyway the problem i ran into using the set up on the 6.4 was because of the location of the CCV sharing the same place as the oil fill. the ccv pressure was blowing the returned oil through the intake system. I was getting white puffs on start up, oil was low all the time, intercooler wound up with 3/4 of a quart of oil in it.

To substantiate my thoughts i ran a piece of heater hose for the CCV, vented it to atmosphere and my thoughts were true. there was a ton of oil coming through the ccv it coated the underside of my truck on a highway drive and when you'd park it'd drip oil out the ccv hose. took off the bypass setup and bam! no more oil blowing throught the ccv. i hardly notice a drop being passed through now.

I'm trying to figure out a better way to return the oil to the engine from the bypass without using the fill cap. Could you return it to the head via the valve cover on the driver side of the engine? Is the aluminum of the valve covers thick enough to drill and tap? I'd like some ideas, what do you guys think?

 

[tbsimmons]

If they are not thick enough, you could use a bulk head fitting. Dont see why it wouldnt work, same idea as to go through the oil fill.

 

[6point0damn2004]

I was thinkin about bulk head fittings, but id hate to have the nut ever back off and go rattling aroumd the valve train. Unless you put it nut side up?

 

[greasltn]

You could weld a bung in the valve cover and not have to worry about it.

 

[powerlifter405]

You could weld a bung in the valve cover and not have to worry about it.

:whs:

 

[Zmann]

the fs2500 6.0 system I have has 2 options for the return one through the oil fil cap and the other into the drain plug of the oil pan

they also offer both options for the 6.4 http://store.fs2500.com/ford64f-250throughf-550enginekittopan-stainlessonly.aspx

I think theirs oil fill return works out because it places an adapter at the bottom of the oil fill tube against the valve cover?

 

[6point0damn2004]

You could weld a bung in the valve cover and not have to worry about it.

Yea, i could prolly have the shop that welded a bung in my elbow do that for me. Hmmmm gotta find the best place in the valve cover i guess. I'm gonna look in to it and ill see where i get. Thanks ya'll

 

[6point0damn2004]

the fs2500 6.0 system I have has 2 options for the return one through the oil fil cap and the other into the drain plug of the oil pan

they also offer both options for the 6.4 http://store.fs2500.com/ford64f-250throughf-550enginekittopan-stainlessonly.aspx

I think theirs oil fill return works out because it places an adapter at the bottom of the oil fill tube against the valve cover?

I saw that but i couldnt find any good info on the return to the oil pan. Maybe ill give them a call

 

[Zmann]

funny thing is the amsoil kit for the 6.4 still uses the oil fill cap ?

 

[6point0damn2004]

Yup. I had it for my 6.0 and saw it on their site for the 6.4 also. Thats why i used it. I even emailed amsoil and laid it out real detailed for them what i was having happen. And the guy i had ended up talking to didnt even seem to take it seriously, seemed to write it off as an isolated case or something. It'd suck if it ended up running someone out of oil or caused a runaway from the oil being fed through the intake tract. Oh well

 

[Zmann]

interesting

can u just do a CCV reroute or not really an option to get past the problem
unless you want to dump it to the atmosphere ?

did u ever notice a difference in oil color on the 6.0 ,, unlike the advertisements I don't really see it any clearer but hopfully it's cleaner

 

[6point0damn2004]

I currently have it dumping under the truck to atmosphere. Even with it dumping to atmosphere you still get the problem. Except now the oil just gets thrown all over the under side of the truck. LOL But with the way they have the CCV setup cant really bypass where it comes through the valve cover. So maybe if the oil return entered the head further away from the ccv or possibly through the other valve cover.

Not runnong the bypass currently and no oil seems to pass through the ccv, that i can tell at least.

 

[Zmann]

Even with it dumping to atmosphere you still get the problem. Except now the oil just gets thrown all over the under side of the truck

ahh ya bad idea it still sucks it from there just blows it out somewhere else

maybe the way the by pass return path makes it ingest oil through the ccv works well on a 6.4 that makes oil due to fuel dilution


lol

 

[6point0damn2004]

ahh ya bad idea it still sucks it from there just blows it out somewhere else

maybe the way the by pass return path makes it ingest oil through the ccv works well on a 6.4 that makes oil due to fuel dilution


lol

LOL:doh:

 

[Martin #6]

I saw that but i couldnt find any good info on the return to the oil pan. Maybe ill give them a call

The oil return on my FS2500 is to the pan.

 

[6point0damn2004]

The oil return on my FS2500 is to the pan.

Could you get a pic of it for me, i'd appreciate it. Wanted to see how it works.

 

[Zmann]

it just goes from the outlet on the filter housing into the drain plug location

so you have to pull it every oil change

 

[Zmann]

interesting http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/6-...l-filters-excessive-ccv-oil-intake-tract.html

EDIT wait that is u also ? LOL

 

[Zmann]

 

[6point0damn2004]

Yea thats me LOL

And thats stupid, in regards to the oil pan return. Im gonna be lookin at my valve covers for the solution