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Message: [QUOTE="powerlifter405, post: 854334, member: 2044"] I'm selling the No-spin because that's my preference. Some guys will swear by the helical geared unit. I made my dad and a buddy a believer as I was in IL for the holidays a few years ago. We get up and had to make a food run but there was 6-8 inches of fresh snow on top of some older stuff. So I had the only vehicle that would make it off the property that would fit all of us. I park my 02 long bed in the grass by the horse pen at his 5 acre place. We got in, I backed up and drove off. He asked me, "aren't you gonna take it out of 4wd?" As we hit the pavement. I replied, never was in 4wd. He commented that every truck he owns, he has to use 4wd to get out of where I was parked when it snows. I've never regretted installing one and I like how there are no electrical lines to short out, no airlines to freeze in the winter..... its -6 right now and it is dummy proof. Just drive. When I got stuck in Austin I missed our exit and pulled off the road. There was no fully paved shoulder so I pulled onto the grass. It was at least 8-12"s deep so I thought nothing of it. I did't know that the area had rain recently and it was muddy. So I have both passenger tires off the pavement 100% and the drivers tire was on the little barely 2-3 foot wide paved shoulder. No biggie right? I reprogram the GPS and as I attempt to pull away, both passenger tires, 35" Pro Comp XT's start throwing gobs of mud, as I stand at a complete stand still. 6" lift, 35's and I"m stuck partially on the shoulder partially on the grass shoulder. :pointlaugh: The 4wd did nothing as the front was open. The rear LS sucked donkey b@lls and didn't to d$ck either. The LS tried as it nudged forward a few times but never enough to get us moving. An oversized tow truck happened to be driving by and sat for a minute enjoying the show before he finally offered to help. It was at moment that I realized, fully empty, not out in the boonies hunting, camping or going to a remote fishing spot, I got stuck on the fkin' side of an off ramp in N. Austin, TX, in the middle of the suburbs. :doh: I will personally never install a LS when I have a fully, 100% locked option to choose from. Every truck I own will or has a Detroit no-spin. It's more useful than a winch 99% of the time and it's less likely to leave you stranded in the dumbest of situations that I somehow get myself into. If I had a 5th wheel or trailer I towed constantly, every day I might go w/ a selectable but if I had no option but a helical gear unit, I'd install both front and rear, and I'd do a lot more praying when I left the pavement :priest: [/QUOTE]