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Message: [QUOTE="Charles, post: 688457, member: 103"] To clarify from a preferential standpoint, IF.... a manual trans existed for a superduty that would not go into thermonuclear meltdown when towing, would shift cleanly and smoothly without self-destructing its own syncros if you wanted to shift faster than an old man in a walker takes a step, and the clutch disengagement mechanism wasn't plastic junk, or simply worked, then I would still be running ONE! But, here on planet earth, that's all fantasy, and doesn't actually happen. So I threw the pos in the trash and moved on. I have absolutely NO problem shifting gears every second I'm driving. That bothers me zero. If the pos would work, I would HAPPILY make every single shift, every single minute, every single day with a smile. I don't get tired of shifting or anything like that. I get tired of a pos trans giving up syncros, not fully disengaging the clutch because the pos plastic junk hydros are crapped, the throwout bearing has eaten into the diaphragm fingers, the fork is warped, the plastic fork pivot is trashed, the pos plastic line has swelled from the master, the bushing at the pedal is worn... blah, blah, blah... Neverminding the fact that I drove this truck for about a decade with one, or the 95 we had before that with the ZF5, every single truck I've had before that that were all manuals, I actually learned to drive period, in a manual transmission equipped jeep Cherokee when I was 4 or 5. I have no problem with a manual transmission. I only have problems with things that don't work. The manual transmission in a superduty doesn't work over 2xxhp continuously, and ~550hp for street duty because of the clutch needed to hold that power no longer shifting worth a damn. And the pos plastic junk clutch hydros won't consistently work well at ANY power level! I don't drive a 4R100 every day because I got tired of shifting. I still manually shift my 4R100!!! I drive a 4R100 every day because I don't ever fight it into gear, I don't feel syncros getting worse and worse month after month, I don't have to wash my clutch off every time I get the slightest diesel or oil leak in the valley, I don't have to refuse to let service techs pull my truck into a shop because they will (yes, it happened) ram it into something trying to ride a ceramic clutch that won't have it, so on and so forth. With the ZF, everything is a fight, and at the end of the day you drive a slower truck, that can't tow as much, and will never blow the tires off from a roll while shifting through gears under power.... You could "powershift" that ZF.... once..... maybe.... lol. I just wanted a couple of you to understand my perspective. I have ALWAYS driven manuals. I have ZERO problem shifting my own gears, and even with the auto I STILL DO. In fact, I REFUSE to allow it to run full auto if I'm doing [i]anything[/i] other than driving down flat, straight road. I hate a full auto even worse than a pos ZF6! [/QUOTE]