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Message: [QUOTE="7.3 Whitey, post: 690966, member: 9853"] And those are practical for a light duty pickup? Cmon. Those cost more, weigh more, and have a lot more in them (like planetary gears). Those have a lot more in common with an auto than a manual when it comes to a light duty truck. How about a battleship diesel transmission? Anyone even look one up? No? Because these trucks aren't heavy equipment. OEM to OEM , 7.3, 6.4, 6.0, the choice (even though I REALLY do want a manual)to go auto is a no brainer. I miss a good manual trans, I really do. I wish I could own a 4900 International service rig with a handshaker and a mechanically injected 466. I would have no problem saying the manual is way better than an auto, in THAT truck and application. With a light duty (yes these are light duty trucks) a GOOD manual is not worth putting in because those big manuals, to be made smaller, would cost WAY more. And you cannot even come close to the capability of an automatic (without the cps automanual thingamabob) with a tuner that can apply a good tune for 99% of the trucks applications. Call BTS and ask them who has the best tunes for your application on a stock or otherwise automatic. Those examples are as ridiculous as saying, "Well the Cummins has a better big rig motor (e.g. C14) so I'm going to buy a crappy dodge 12v with a manual, and it'll go (insert adjective like faster, tow better etc) better than a 7.3 with an auto. " Drivetrain, engine tech, and everything else has evolved. Its made big manuals, and little automatics AMAZING. Back in the eighties a medium duty truck didn't have a V8. Go to the 90s and 444s, 3206s, etc are plentiful. In the 80s no one wanted an auto. From 99 on the manual has been considered taken off the map. Better trans tech evolved on the automatic because a majority of people who buy these trucks want an auto. Maybe because they're lazy or the truck is rated to a higher torque. How about emissions? EPA definitely had different standards for emissions on a manual super duty 7.3, than a manual. [/QUOTE]