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Message: [QUOTE="2000wa250, post: 490850, member: 3399"] I'm currently running 250/200 with a 467. Nice combo. Do I have a fully built motor? NO. Am I planning on buying a spare motor and possibly throwing billet rods and a girdle in it? YES. Do I flog on my truck? Yes. However, I understand that I am not going to be able to run this truck all out, all the time, on stock forged rods. I know on my old tunes from Cale before I started tuning it myself, I made approx. 550HP and just over a grand torque. There were some significant issues, but that gives you an idea of what the set up you are looking at can do. Now that I am tuning it myself I can tell you I am a lot more cautious as far as romping on it. However, I still have a responsive DD, that is fun, can (and has) broken the tires loose at 65 on the freeway (I dont recommend it, its fun, but scary as **** when you are merging). My current tune (I only run one to DD right now) is almost smoke free, but then again I am running very minimal PW (benefit of 200% nozzles) and very conservative as far as the SOI tables go. Heres my advice. Buy your injectors, turbo and oil to suit your needs, but include in your budget at least a replacement stock motor. If I was to do it all over again, I would have bought the spare motor first, then modded the one in my truck. As it is, I have a line on a few spares, and as soon as the funds are readily available, will by purchasing one and it will be going onto a stand in my garage. Whether or not I build it up with billet rods and everything, is another question, but the way I see it, I want to at least have a spare engine that I can put my stuff onto to get me back on the road vs a truck sitting waiting for me to get a motor figured out. Oh, and for what its worth, 250/200's and the 467 makes for a very fun set up. Thats on a manual truck. I cant imagine how much fun it would be with an automatic. As it is, I'm a lot slower than I want to be, simply because I lose boost when I shift. Either way, just be realistic. As soon as you cross the 500HP barrier you are on barrowed time... And as far as that, your tuning makes a huge difference. Do more research on that then you do on anything else. Remember, you can throw as many parts that should work together on a motor as you want, but its the tuning that tells those parts both how to act, and controls the way they work together to keep your engine running, and running healthy. [/QUOTE]