Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke Aluminum Radiator Build Thread!

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Hey guys,

Many of you have been following our social media outlets and are aware that we have been working to develop an aluminum radiator for the 6.7L. We put together a neat build thread which will highlight the development process of this component. Check it out at the link to our engineering blog or in this thread!

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/?cat=140

2011+ Ford 6.7L Powerstroke Performance Aluminum Radiator, Part 1: Product Introduction, Explanation, and Factory Radiator Analysis

The Ford Powerstroke 6.4L has not had a fantastic reputation for radiator reliability. Radiator failures are nearly a guarantee, with many vehicle owners experiencing frequent failures in an extremely short time frame. Ford began tackling the problem with a variety of Technical Service Bulletins for coolant system upgrades to remedy the issues. To provide even more protection, the team at Mishimoto developed a very successful bolt-in radiator for the 6.4L that eliminates several common failure points in the factory unit: the plastic material used in the end tanks, and the crimp connection of the core to the tanks. We also investigated the reasoning for frequent failures in certain trucks, and we identified several factors that would have an impact on overall radiator longevity. These include coolant system components such as the degas bottle and thermostat, as well as chassis bushings, which play a huge role in radiator flex. Check out our post at the link below for more details regarding our findings.

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/?cat=105

Enough about the 6.4L. The focus of this article is on the new Powerstroke on the block, the mighty 6.7L. Ford has done a great job with the new engine. Although we’ve heard of some turbocharger issues and additional minor problems, the new truck seems fairly stout and responds well to modifications. The 6.7L is the first medium-duty diesel designed and built by Ford; International is no longer the engine supplier.

During our time spent on web forums, with enthusiast groups, at truck events, and in discussions with our vendors, we began to receive feedback regarding a need for a 6.7L aluminum radiator solution. If enthusiasts need a cooling solution, we are always ready to tackle a problem to develop an effective solution. We set some initial goals for the project to ensure that our engineering team would stay on track and create the product our consumers were requesting.

Project Goals

  1. Must be direct fit and require no vehicle modification.
  2. Provide additional coolant capacity and an efficient core design.
  3. Test and provide data regarding radiator performance compared to OEM unit.

Let’s break these goals down for a quick look at each.

Make It Fit
Fitment is one of our primary product goals with all components going through the development process. We want our products to fit just as well as their factory counterparts. Our team comprises automotive enthusiasts and consumers, and we all have had experiences with an aftermarket piece that does not fit as well as it should. That situation is quite frustrating. Our products are engineered for an exact fit, and we put all our products through a strict process of vehicle test fitting to ensure that the final design is optimal.

Our team will be using the factory radiator to model the mounting points and to develop a 3D rendering of our proposed product. Additionally, we plan to increase the capacity of this radiator, which normally results in an external size increase. We will need to account for this, as we do not want any vehicle modifications necessary for installation. Balancing the increase in capacity and fitment will be key to developing a great product. In short, this radiator will need to fit properly without altering any portion of the truck.

Increased Capacity and Efficiency
As with any of our radiator projects, efficiency is going to be our primary target for product design. Manufacturing this radiator out of aluminum provides improved reliability and durability. This benefit alone is a reason to make the upgrade to aluminum, considering the frequent failure of plastic end tanks. Because of the constant and frequent variation of temperature, plastic end tanks have a reputation for degrading over time. Aluminum is far less susceptible to heat-induced wear, and aluminum will also provide improved heat dissipation. This means it will recover from high temperatures more quickly, which is very helpful when towing or driving aggressively.

Along with designing this product completely out of aluminum, we will be looking to increase fluid capacity. An increase in fluid capacity will result in improved cooling efficiency, but simply making this radiator larger is not enough. We will also be inspecting the factory core, fins, and coolant tubes so we can design our radiator with a denser core. What does this mean? Core density is a measure of the fin and tube composition of the radiator core. Packing more fins into a specific area will result in more heat-transfer points, which results in improved heat exchanger function. Our goal will be to improve on the factory unit by designing a core with shorter fins so we can pack more fins and coolant tubes into the core.

Our hope is that all these improvements will result in real-world improvements in cooling efficiency. What is the point of upgrading your radiator if it isn’t more efficient than the factory unit?

Data Support
Unfortunately, the aftermarket performance world is full of absurd claims by manufacturers and also skeptical customers. All products in development at Mishimoto are thoroughly tested to ensure that performance is improved over the factory unit. This allows us to provide real-world data that our consumers can trust.

We will be road testing this radiator to ensure that it cools in an efficient manner. If we can provide gains in efficiency, this will translate to huge benefits that will be seen when towing or hauling large loads.

Now that we had our project goals and guidelines, it was time to bring in a truck for some initial data collection. Check out our test subject, ready to be torn down for radiator removal!

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6.7L Powerstroke test vehicle

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6.7L Powerstroke test vehicle

A peek into the engine bay! Things look quite cramped in there, so this should be a “fun” radiator removal. Book time puts this at just under five hours for replacement.

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6.7L Powerstroke test vehicle engine bay

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6.7L Powerstroke test vehicle engine bay

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6.7L Powerstroke test vehicle engine bay

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6.7L Powerstroke test vehicle engine bay

As you can see, open engine bay real estate is nearly nonexistent. Ford used a liquid-to-air intercooler, which is occupying the driver’s side of the engine bay. Additionally, this CAC system uses its own cooling system, separate from the main cooling system. The CAC system needs an additional pump, hoses, and even a secondary radiator. The secondary cooling system runs on a much lower thermostat-regulated temperature.

Take a look at the extensive cooling system from the front, with a few of the front-end components removed.

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6.7L Powerstroke radiator removal process

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6.7L Powerstroke cooling components

Next we set our team to work removing the factory radiator. We snapped a few shots of some of the components during removal.

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6.7L Powerstroke radiator removal

Here we can see the upper mounting point for the radiator on the 6.7L. The round bushing attaching the upper peg is very similar if not identical to the bushing used in the 6.4L.

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6.7L Powerstroke radiator hoses

Check out a neat shot of the plastic end tank crimp connections.

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6.7L Powerstroke stock radiator end tank

Finally, after a fun day under the hood of the 6.7L, the radiator was freed from the grasp of the truck. Check out a few shots of the radiator once removed!

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6.7L Powerstroke factory radiator end tank

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6.7L Powerstroke factory radiator

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6.7L Powerstroke factory radiator

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6.7L Powerstroke factory radiator

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6.7L Powerstroke factory radiator internal core

As you can see, the factory radiator utilizes a single-row core, 43.5mm thick. Our evaluation of engine bay constraints shows that we can expand this slightly to provide improvements in fluid capacity.

Check back with us next time where we grab data points from the factory radiator and begin test fitting our prototype radiator!

Thanks for reading!
 

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Part 2 of this build is up guys! Check it out.

2011–2014 Ford 6.7L Powerstroke Performance Aluminum Radiator, Part 2: Prototype Design Evaluation

Time to design a new radiator! Now that we had the factory radiator removed and the engine bay dimensions documented, we needed to determine the individual dimensions of the factory radiator. We set the radiator up on our Romer arm to begin drawing this component in 3D. Check it out!

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6.7L Powerstroke factory radiator modeling

This tool allows our engineers to capture dimensions in a controlled environment. The radiator is secured to the table, while the arm is used to note the position of critical points. When complete, the engineers can use these points to develop a full model of the radiator.

Once we had the radiator prototype modeled, we developed a prototype unit to test fit into a truck. This would help us ensure that we reached our first goal, perfect fitment. Check out a few shots of our prototype unit!

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator

This radiator prototype looks fantastic. Polished aluminum end tanks are TIG-welded to the core, and all brackets are precisely TIG-welded to the tanks. The core itself is extremely dense and features a very short fin, which allows for additional coolant tubes throughout the core. Later on, we will have details regarding the comparison of this core to the factory unit.

One of the key features of this radiator is the CNC-machined inlet and outlet. The factory cooling system uses quick-disconnect fittings on the radiator in place of the older clamp-on style hoses. Numerous OEM manufacturers are beginning to use these quick-disconnect connection points in cooling systems, PCV systems, and various other hose connections throughout their vehicles. These specialized fittings require extreme precision, which is something our engineers specialize in when they design new products. We have designed numerous other radiators (BMW E46, BMW E90, Ford 6.4L Powerstroke) that utilize such connection points. Check out a close-up of these components!

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator inlet

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator inlet

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator inlet

These CNC-machined components turned out beautifully. We tested the connections with the factory hoses to ensure that our dimensions were correct. Everything fit perfectly and we prepared to install this radiator to check for proper fitment. But first, let’s take a closer look at the end tanks themselves.

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator end tank

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator end tank

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator end tank

Check back with us next time to see this radiator installed in our test vehicle!

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Very nice guys!!

While you have the front all tore apart, would you consider modeling a replacement secondary radiator while it is out? I think a lot of folks on here would be interested in one of those to help bring down there charge air temps more than they already are.
 

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Impressive

Very well done

Thanks for taking a look!

When are they available

We are expecting these radiators to hit shelves in 1-2 weeks!

Very nice guys!!

While you have the front all tore apart, would you consider modeling a replacement secondary radiator while it is out? I think a lot of folks on here would be interested in one of those to help bring down there charge air temps more than they already are.

Great questions! We actually purchased a secondary radiator to pull apart and inspect. We collected dimensional information and we are certainly considering this component as a future project!
 

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Part 3 is up and posted below! Part 4 includes all of our testing data and will be posted by the end of today!

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/?cat=140

Thanks for reading guys. :thumb:

2011+ Ford 6.7L Powerstroke Performance Aluminum Radiator, Part 3: Prototype Test Fitting

Now that the prototype was complete and all dimensions checked out with our drawings, it was time to drop this into a truck to ensure that fitment was spot on with all engine bay components. To give you an idea of the scale, take a look at this unit next to one of our Subaru WRX aluminum radiators.

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Mishimoto 6.7L Size comparison of Powerstroke prototype radiator (left) and Subaru WRX aluminum radiator

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Mishimoto 6.7L Size comparison of Powerstroke prototype radiator (left) and Subaru WRX aluminum radiator

Now we can shoehorn this monster into the engine compartment to check fitment of the brackets, mounting points, and engine bay components. Below you can see the radiator mostly installed. We needed to remove numerous components before we could access the factory radiator.

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator installation

The secondary radiator installation is shown in the next image.

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator installation

Finally, the front end is back together!

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Mishimoto 6.7L Powerstroke prototype radiator installed

The install went great! All components bolted into place properly, and fitment was identical to the factory radiator. Once installed, most of the radiator is not visible in the engine bay; it is covered with other heat exchangers, shrouds, hoses, and covers. That’s too bad, because this aluminum radiator not only fits perfectly, but it also looks fantastic!

Now that we knew the radiator fit perfectly and looked the part, we would need to test it to ensure that it provides the performance and efficiency gains we wanted.

Check back next time for the testing of our Powerstroke 6.7L radiator and the conclusion of this project!


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Data is up! Check it out guys.

2011+ Ford 6.7L Powerstroke Performance Aluminum Radiator, Part 4: Prototype Road Testing and Project Conclusion

Time to put some numbers behind the effort our team has put forth on this project! As mentioned in the last post, we would be collecting real-world driving data to analyze the effectiveness of our performance aluminum radiator against the factory unit. To prepare for this, we attached our temperature sensors to both the inlet and outlet of the radiator. This would allow us to analyze the efficiency of the radiator by comparing the reduction in temperature from inlet to outlet. Check out these sensors attached to the factory radiator.

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Temperature sensors installed with factory radiator

Now that we had everything installed and the cooling system was bled of any air bubbles, we could begin to collect the necessary data. To keep things consistent, identical testing conditions were used to ensure that this was as close to apples-to-apples as possible.

Testing Conditions
  • Ambient temperature: 68°F–72°F (20˚C–22.2˚C)
  • Data collection on the highway at 65 mph, cruising for 10 miles
  • Attention given to vehicles in front of the truck to ensure sufficient airflow

Once we had our data for the factory radiator, we installed the Mishimoto unit and performed an identical test. Check out a close-up of the sensor installed.

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Temperature sensors installed with Mishimoto radiator

This data would provide the information needed to compare the efficiency of both radiators tested. Prior to analyzing this data, we put together a few charts to display the physical benefits of the Mishimoto radiator compared to the factory unit.

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Core thickness comparison chart

Core thickness is a big deal to a lot of consumers. Core thickness plays a large role in fluid capacity as well as heat transfer and dissipation. Simply adding a larger core cannot guarantee improved performance, because the core also needs to be designed properly to take advantage of this increased size. The Mishimoto radiator provides a 10% thicker core compared to the factory radiator.

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Core volume comparison chart

Core volume correlates with core thickness. The greater the fluid capacity, the greater the impact on cooling performance. The Mishimoto core utilizes shorter external fins, which allow us to pack more cooling tubes into the core. Core volume is also increased by 10% with the Mishimoto radiator.

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Coolant Capacity comparison chart

Next we compare coolant capacities. The Mishimoto radiator has a 37% increase in capacity over the factory radiator. These gains are achieved through the use of more coolant tubes, as mentioned above, and a thicker core. Additionally, our end tanks increase in volume as well, which results in a total capacity increase.

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Radiator fin area comparison chart

Because the Mishimoto radiator uses shorter fins compared to the factory unit, we are able to provide more total fin area. External fins make direct contact with air, which then transfers the heat from the coolant tubes. This means that more fin area will result in greater overall heat transfer. The Mishimoto radiator provides a 20% increase in fin area.

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Radiator tube area comparison chart

This increase in fin area will have a direct result tube area, which is increased by 15% compared to the factory radiator.

So what does all this mean for you? How do all these gains translate into actual real-world coolant temperatures? Check out the compiled efficiency chart below from our road testing!

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Radiator efficiency comparison chart

This direct comparison of respectable inlet and outlet temperatures for the factory and Mishimoto radiators provides the data needed to support this radiator as a performance benefit to your truck. Thanks to the core improvements and size increases, we are able to achieve an overall 5% improvement in cooling efficiency compared to the factory radiator. Greater efficiency is extremely helpful during heavy load towing and hauling, or aggressive driving situations. Now that we had all our data points and a product that works as designed, it was time to recap our goals and results.

Project Goals
1. Must be direct fit and require no vehicle modification.

This radiator bolts into the factory mounting points and functions perfectly with all factory equipment and shrouding in the engine bay. Despite an increase in physical size We confirmed this by test fitting the radiator in several vehicles.

2. Provide additional coolant capacity and an efficient core design.

The Mishimoto aluminum radiator provides a 37% increase in coolant capacity compared to the factory radiator; this allows for greater efficiency. Additionally, the core that our engineers designed provides improvements in volume, fin area, and tube area, which resulted in real-world decreases in fluid temperature.

3. Test and provide data regarding radiator performance compared to OEM unit.

Our real-world data collection and comparison showed a 5% increase in radiator efficiency compared to the factory radiator. These gains will be extremely useful for trucks in a towing or hauling situation or when driven aggressively.

So that’s it, all goals for this project have been met! Our team really hit a home run with this radiator. The additional cooling efficiency we can provide for our customers will surely help those who ask a lot from their Powerstroke. We look forward to the independent customer reviews.

Thanks for following!
 

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