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Message: [QUOTE="Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto, post: 887832, member: 8143"] I respectfully disagree. I know it has a lot to with scr strategy, but if ford has equal or better fuel mileage, hp and uses less urea while meeting the same emissions, how doesn't that state that there is a reason for it? The flow of the heads and up-pipe configuration and quite few other reasons are why I made the statements that they will not make more power on the cummins and duramax platforms. The design of the engine itself will out perform the older (10+ year architecture) of the d-max and cummins. I'm not down playing it but without a large change the other two will not succeed ford in hp. Other wise they will be dosing enough urea and regen so often that they will be very costly to drive. Not saying they can't go to a factory compound turbo arrangement with re-designed heads and updated dpf, egr and scr system to make it. Just not in their current states. [/QUOTE]

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