OUO Traction Bars on DJM lowered truck

4EverBoosted1 · Mar 19, 2013

Does anyone know if the OUO bolt on traction bars would work on my truck with the DJM 3-5 drop?

Powerstroked162 · Mar 19, 2013

No. The rear flip kit eliminates the ability to use any OUO bolt on system. JD and I are gonna be fabbing up a custom piece to work with the OUO bars, on my truck. I probably won't have any results for atleast a month or so though.

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smokinstroker · Mar 19, 2013

I've got some weld on tabs I'm not going to use if those would work for ya

4EverBoosted1 · Mar 19, 2013

Hmmm so what exactly are my options here.. Thanks buddy! ^

4EverBoosted1 · Mar 19, 2013

I guess I could run ouo weld on bars? But would the angle of them be in a bind with the truck so low?

Powerstroked162 · Mar 19, 2013

You wouldn't be able to weld them on as the DJM kit flips the axle on top of the springs. OUO bars are designed to be mounted aligned with the frame which isn't possible to do without some custom work done on the spring plate. I'm gonna try it myself but I'm not 100% sure it's gonna work. Trial and error I guess lol

As far as "Bolt on" options go, Cal-tracs are about all you will find. I don't like them personally which is why I'm fabbing something up.

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4EverBoosted1 · Mar 19, 2013

damn it lol
why would caltracs work?

Lowdown89 · Mar 19, 2013

Also if you are gonna run cal tracs you have to flip the spring hanger so the open end faces down... So keep that in mind if you run them

4EverBoosted1 · Mar 19, 2013

But why would they work is my question

Layson · Mar 20, 2013

Here is an option for you.

Don't do the axle flip. Remove the big bottom overload spring and just leave the (2) springs in the pack and put the truck back together and see where it sits.

If you need to go lower have a spring shop de-arch the factory springs, and since you put the truck together to see where it is at you know how much arch to take out. Then You can run any OUO rear mount and the bars would actually work.

If you use the OUO square top conversion U-bolts with the U-Bolts pointing down you can get the springs really close to the bed on full compression after you C Notch the frame , do not forget the bump stop.

I would not recommend running OUO bars on an axle flip system, it will not functional correctly.

Powerstroked162 · Mar 20, 2013

Why won't it function?

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Layson · Mar 20, 2013

I would probably give Dave a call and pick his brain. I am thinking that geometry will affect the design of the bar. Dave from OUO would be a better resource to talk to about it. Heck he could shift a few things around in a model and tell you exactly what would work.

jdgleason · Mar 20, 2013

Layson said:
I would probably give Dave a call and pick his brain. I am thinking that geometry will affect the design of the bar. Dave from OUO would be a better resource to talk to about it. Heck he could shift a few things around in a model and tell you exactly what would work.

Might be a good seller for OUO... I know there are more than a few lowered trucks that only have cal tracs as an option.

Layson · Mar 20, 2013

Definitely!

Here are a little bit more of my thoughts on why the setup wouldn't function as well. If you put the spring and the bar on the same side of the axle will put the leaf springs in compression under acceleration and not under tension like they should be. Pretty much the same reason that traction bars on top of the spring induces axle wrap.

Which is also the same reason why the caltracs makes the truck bunny hop. Watch the spring load up and release its energy. This is the main reason I don't think these are the best option for our trucks. They are design flawed and supposedly built for racing. Imagine what they would do from max power to a chopped throttle....

http://youtu.be/_UMInXyUxVY

Powerstroked162 · Mar 20, 2013

Steven, do you think you could lend us lowered 2wd guys a hand and see what you could come up with? As much power as we will be putting through mine, I want no issues out back.

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4EverBoosted1 · Mar 20, 2013

wow thanks guys for all of the help. I think we can get this figured out and possibly open up a new market for the lowered crew. I want everything on my build to be top notch so I dont want to settle for cal-tracs if they are gonna hop like that video... If you could come up with a solution I would gladly purchase it in a heartbeat.

Layson · Mar 20, 2013

Just remove the large bottom overload spring and just leave the (2) springs in the pack. Put the truck together and see where the truck sits at.

If you need to go lower, have a spring shop de-arch the factory springs. Since you know where the truck sat before you can tell the shop exactly how much arch to take out of the spring. The springs will still work great de-arched and I don't think it is a lot of money to have it done.

Then you can run the U-bolt down mount with the square U-bolts. This should make the rear of your truck fully functional with lots of power.

4EverBoosted1 · Mar 21, 2013

why wouldnt these work? http://www.trucktoyzstore.com/realm/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=532

SAK · Mar 21, 2013

The link you posted was for block type mounts.

What Steve was talking about were these:
One Up Offroad Bolt-On Traction Bars w/U-Bolt Flip - 1999-2010 F250/F350 2 & 4wd

4EverBoosted1 · Mar 21, 2013

I got a hold of Dave at OUO. What a great guy. He went over everything and more and we finally got a set up that should work perfectly and make this truck handle like a racecar lol... Not doing a flip kit anymore, just going to make as many adjustments as possible to bring the rear down without flipping. Gonna remove leafs and max out the drop shackles. Then install a nice kit from Dave!